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‐ Russians have
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is an asymmetry in
conventional warfare.

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The Russian military
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that of the United
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How do you then balance
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One way to do that is to invest
in much cheaper measures.

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These nonconventional
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to try to weaken
western institutions,

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undermine western democracies
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‐ Putin realizes that if
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we cannot protect ourselves
from threats within and without.

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‐ From the Russian
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political warfare is just
part of the art of war.

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‐ What they're driving
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is to watch democracy
crumble from the inside out.

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‐ I'm sitting with
him at dinner.

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I told him I'd been
at the memorial

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of the siege of Leningrad.

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He said I'll tell you a story.

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He said my father was
one of those people

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who was on the front lines.

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And had gotten 24
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As he was walking down the
street to his apartment,

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he saw a big pile of bodies
which was not at all uncommon.

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He saw a leg sticking out
and a shoe on the foot

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and he recognized that
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So he stopped and he screamed

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and said, well, that's my wife.

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That's my wife.

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I want my wife.

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The body collectors told him
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At this point he's pulling
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He took her to their apartment

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and nursed her back to health.

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And then after the war she
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Putin sees himself as
literally pulling the body

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of Russia out of the pile,
the dust bin of history.

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You know, we are
going to revive you.

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You are not dead.

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And I will take care of you.

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I mean, that is the mindset.

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‐ I think his ambitions always
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and then gather all the
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into the presidency.

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‐ His devotion to reasserting
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is certainly in
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because he wants to be the czar.

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He wants to be the
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and he wants to settle scores.

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‐ He made his way
up through the KGB.

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‐ His role in the KGB

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was to support Russian
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living under assumed identities

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under deep cover inside
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and developing active measures

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to impact the policies
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‐ The KGB was power.

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If you said that you were
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People would stand aside.

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‐ In 1991 when the
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every republic that
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of the Soviet Union
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to recognize the republics in
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‐ Putin, like many Russians,
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the dissolving of
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was a horrific thing because
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and Russia itself smaller.

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And the Americans are
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‐ I think he's dedicated
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‐ The first time I met
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he was the deputy
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working for the mayor whose
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Sobchak was this charismatic
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allied with Boris Yeltsin.

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His deputy was the
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Non‐descript, grave bureaucrat.

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A very soft spoken.

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Had you asked me back then
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that might be the next
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he would not have made my list.

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‐ He supported Mayor Sobchak

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but he was also organizing
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of former KGB foreign economic
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‐ In the 1990's St.
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for organized crime
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State institutions
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with Kremlin
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as much as they could
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‐ Putin was a pretty good fixer.

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He could make stuff happen.

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He knew how to work the system.

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‐ Mr. Putin
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to be the focal point of all
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as they came together.

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‐ He was made FSB director.

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The FSB is responsible
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These are the guys who
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the most resources.

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‐ He learned which
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how to maneuver politically.

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‐ That became his primary goal.

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Power.

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The FSB was simply a ladder.

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‐ Almost immediately after the
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these oligarchs were
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state owned enterprises at
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It turned some of these individuals
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or even billionaires
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‐ Under Yeltsin, the oligarchs

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became very powerful
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And the power of the
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The end of the Yeltsin
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almost sort of a buffoonish
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You know, a drunk.

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A little bit out of control.

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‐ Yeltsin was nervous and
he chose to go with a guy

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that he thought would protect
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That's, I think, the
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was selected to then
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‐ Followed by the bombings
of the apartment houses.

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‐ There were a series of
terrorist attacks in 1999.

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They found evidence of the FSB

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having been there
and set that all up.

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‐ I know what has been alleged.

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I find the evidence
compelling and I know

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those terrorist attacks
helped Vladimir Putin

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win the election.

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I'm not ready to believe yet

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and maybe that's just my
idealism getting in the way

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of my analytic side that
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would kill its own civilians
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‐ The apartment bombings
were KGB operations

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using a type of explosive
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in a KGB facility.

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‐ Oh, sure.

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It was very clever
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began to look for a leader.

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It's not the first
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You can compare
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to the 1930's and the
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‐ With respect to democracy,
I think it's pretty clear

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from the very get go he
feared independent actors.

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‐ Putin started forcing
the independent media

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to knuckle under,
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turning it into
propaganda outfits.

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‐ Started arresting people who
had different points of view.

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‐ Then he starts going after
independent journalists.

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They start ending up dead.

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Assassinated.

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‐ The most prominent
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Anna Politkovskaya was
murdered on Putin's birthday.

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‐ Putin brought the
oligarchs to heel.

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‐ A number of them were
forced to leave the country

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Some were killed in
mysterious fashions.

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Those who remained are
basically lapdogs of his.

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‐ Putin was letting
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that this period of
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their own thing
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‐ And then he brought
his most trusted friends

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and confidantes from the
intelligence services

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into the key positions,
controlling all those businesses.

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‐ Vladimir Putin and his
oligarchs used money,

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essentially stolen from
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‐ If you're one of
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getting your stolen proceeds
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is one of your
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‐ Once that money is
laundered, they have access

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to western banks and they
can do whatever they want.

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‐ Semion Mogilevich was the
first big organized crime figure

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in Russia who figured out how
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out of Russia and the
former Soviet Union.

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‐ Semion Mogilevich is worth
about 10 billion dollars

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according to FBI reports.

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He's considered the
money laundering genius.

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He's sometimes
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'cause he has a
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‐ The most important
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The man who was for years
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in the United States.

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‐ He still lives
happily in Moscow today.

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‐ In Russia he
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and is rarely without a
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and his 200,000 pound armor
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‐ Why did
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in the Channel Islands?

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‐ The problem was that I
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Well, they taught us
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I was sick that day.

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‐ The Russian mafia is an
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‐ I've described it as
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under the Soviets to
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under Yeltsin to organized
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‐ His networks recycle back
to Mr. Putin's inner circle

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and they continue to help
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‐ To the point where
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the wealthiest man on
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‐ Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Everything I know that's
interesting I can't tell you.

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Now let me try to think of
a way to go at 30,000 feet.

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Yeah, I know where
you're going with this

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'cause I know we're gonna talk
about Trump in a few minutes.

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‐ In the 70's Donald
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of one of the biggest
landowners along the east coast.

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‐ He played monopoly.

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Yes, indeed.

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More than monopoly, he
played with building blocks.

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Always with building blocks.

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‐ He has huge ambitions,
huge ego as we know.

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‐ Because not everybody is
meant to be a business person.

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They'll ruin their lives.

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I mean they'll go and they'll,

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they'll put up their house and
they'll mortgage their cars

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and everything else they own.

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‐ And he is starting
to move into Manhattan.

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‐ Trump Tower was
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that made it a money
laundering paradox.

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‐ Trump Tower became
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in New York where Shell companies
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without identifying yourself.

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‐ If you go back to the 80's,
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got a bill through Congress
allowing the immigration

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of Soviet Jews into
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at a time when immigration
had been highly restrictive.

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‐ We'll honor the
right of a person

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to leave a country freely

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and return freely just as
clear as anything can be.

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‐ The Russians
saw it as an opportunity

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to open their jails.

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That's when you see members
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come to the United States
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and end up in Brighton Beach.

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‐ There were certain techniques

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for money management
and money movement

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that were prized above others.

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And these involved real estate.

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‐ It started off simply as
money laundering pure and simple

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and you had in 1984 for
example David Bogatin,

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who was a Russian
mobster, met with Trump.

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Trump Tower had just opened
the previous year and Bogatin,

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who had no legal way
of making that money,

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sat down with Trump
and bought five condos

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and the state
attorney general ruled

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that that was money laundering.

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Vyacheslav Ivankov,
who was very close

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to the great mastermind
of organized crime,

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Semion Mogilevich, and he
was sent to the United States

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to oversee the rise of
the Brighton Beach mafia.

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And when the feds were looking
for him they looked all over

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and they couldn't find
him anywhere in Brooklyn.

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Instead, he was
living in Trump Tower.

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‐ Donald Trump marries Ivana.

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The Czech Secret Police
takes note of this.

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The intelligence that they
gathered was that Donald Trump

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was being pressured,
not clear by whom,

257
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to run for president
as early as 1988.

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They thought that it would
be good for Czechoslovakia

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if this husband of a Czech
citizen became president

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of the United States.

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After his successes
in New York City

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he got into the Atlantic
city casino business.

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He goes big.

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Builds the Trump Taj Majal.

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‐ Which will be the largest
hotel casino in the world

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and I think it's gonna
be a tremendous success.

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‐ That turns out
to be his undoing.

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‐ In a town where
for the last 10 years

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no casino with
60,000 squared foot

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has ever been fully utilized.

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On what basis would someone
build one with 120,000 feet?

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He was destined to fail.

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‐ Trump Casino was
hit hard for having

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violated U. S. federal anti‐money
laundering regulations.

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It suggests a culture of
willful disregard of the law.

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‐ He basically
unravels financially.

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He also was unraveling
personally at this same time.

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His marriage was falling apart.

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‐ By that
point he had filed,

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I believe it was
six bankruptcies.

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He had no way to move
forward professionally.

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He couldn't get a
bank loan anywhere.

283
00:16:27,554 --> 00:16:29,523
‐ There is a homeless
person sitting,

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sitting right outside
of Trump Tower.

285
00:16:32,893 --> 00:16:36,429
I remember my father pointing
to him and saying, you know,

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that guy has eight billion
dollars more than me

287
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because he was in such extreme
debt at that point, you know.

288
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:47,508
‐ The Russians have a
particular type of mark

289
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whom they go after.

290
00:16:49,943 --> 00:16:52,713
They go after somebody who
has business resources,

291
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perhaps some shady morals
so that they're amenable

292
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to the bribery.

293
00:17:00,554 --> 00:17:03,389
Or perhaps are in a difficult
financial situation.

294
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And either has political
connections or aspirations.

295
00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,763
I've just described
Donald Trump.

296
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He was the perfect
mark for the Russians.

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‐ The Russians saved him.

298
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They rescued him.

299
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He would not have gotten back
in business without them.

300
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I think it's safe to say he
couldn't have run for president

301
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if he had just been a guy

302
00:17:25,378 --> 00:17:27,213
who was four billion
dollars in debt.

303
00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:32,619
When the Russian
mafia does something

304
00:17:32,686 --> 00:17:36,557
it's with Putin's permission
and it's serving his interests.

305
00:17:36,623 --> 00:17:38,625
‐ Have you ever
knowingly done business

306
00:17:38,692 --> 00:17:41,562
with what I like to
call organized crime?

307
00:17:43,597 --> 00:17:44,798
Have they ever stopped by and‐‐

308
00:17:44,865 --> 00:17:47,167
‐ Well, I really tried
to stay away from them

309
00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:48,434
as much as possible.
‐ Right.

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‐ Although I must say
I have met on occasion

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a few of those people.

312
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They happen to be
very nice people.

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You just don't want
to owe them money.

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‐ Yeah, I understand.
‐ Don't owe them money.

315
00:18:01,281 --> 00:18:04,685
‐ Simeon Mogelivich, he made
a decision to make the move

316
00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:09,389
on Trump after studying Trump's
2004 bankruptcy filings.

317
00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,897
Noticing that Trump had
lost his credit lines.

318
00:18:16,963 --> 00:18:20,601
They felt he would not be
in the position to say no.

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‐ The Russian real
estate firm Bayrock

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started leasing
space in Trump Tower.

321
00:18:27,808 --> 00:18:30,711
Putin needs to keep
track of his oligarchs

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00:18:30,777 --> 00:18:34,915
and one way of keeping tabs is
knowing where their money is.

323
00:18:34,981 --> 00:18:37,518
Bayrock may well have
been a way of doing that.

324
00:18:38,752 --> 00:18:41,822
To me that's a turning point
because what we have here

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is a very serious
intelligence operation

326
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and it is in the
belly of the beast.

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It is in the home of the man

328
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who becomes president
of the United States.

329
00:18:51,598 --> 00:18:54,300
And it was operating there
for many, many years.

330
00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,538
‐ One of the key people putting
it together, Felix Sater.

331
00:18:57,604 --> 00:19:00,340
‐ A lieutenant in the
Mogilevich crime family.

332
00:19:00,406 --> 00:19:03,910
Very connected into the nexus

333
00:19:03,977 --> 00:19:06,680
between the Russian
criminal organizations

334
00:19:06,747 --> 00:19:10,751
and the Russian national
security organizations.

335
00:19:10,817 --> 00:19:14,420
‐ He became managing
director of Bayrock.

336
00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:16,657
He himself had been
convicted of two felonies.

337
00:19:16,723 --> 00:19:19,860
‐ Slashing a guy's
face at a bar.

338
00:19:19,926 --> 00:19:23,296
‐ Another was a pump
and dump stock scheme.

339
00:19:23,363 --> 00:19:25,999
But he ended up
cooperating with the feds

340
00:19:26,066 --> 00:19:28,835
and he started
providing information

341
00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:32,405
on sales of weapons to Al‐Qaeda.

342
00:19:32,472 --> 00:19:34,608
Mogilevich, according
to FBI reports,

343
00:19:34,675 --> 00:19:36,376
was selling weapons to Al‐Qaeda.

344
00:19:37,711 --> 00:19:39,813
That raised very
interesting questions

345
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,883
'cause I don't think Felix
Sater would betray Mogilevich.

346
00:19:44,551 --> 00:19:46,787
He famously
threatened an investor

347
00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:48,922
with electrocuting
his testicles.

348
00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:53,827
Trump worked with Sater
for many, many years

349
00:19:53,894 --> 00:19:56,462
after it was revealed
that he was a criminal.

350
00:19:56,530 --> 00:19:58,699
He continued to work
for Trump and in fact

351
00:19:58,765 --> 00:20:01,802
had a business card saying
that he was a senior advisor

352
00:20:01,868 --> 00:20:03,637
to the Trump organization.

353
00:20:03,704 --> 00:20:05,038
‐ There's
multiple photographs

354
00:20:05,105 --> 00:20:06,507
of the two of them together.

355
00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:08,909
He had an office in Trump tower.

356
00:20:08,975 --> 00:20:11,778
Trump was the public
face of Bayrock.

357
00:20:11,845 --> 00:20:15,682
‐ And yet when he was placed
under oath in a deposition

358
00:20:15,749 --> 00:20:18,952
and confronted about
Sater, he simply says, uh.

359
00:20:19,019 --> 00:20:20,787
‐ If he was sitting in
a the room right now,

360
00:20:20,854 --> 00:20:23,557
I really wouldn't know
what he looked like.

361
00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:27,594
‐ Trump actually
personally asks Sater

362
00:20:27,661 --> 00:20:32,298
to escort his two children,
Ivanka and Donald Trump, Jr.,

363
00:20:32,365 --> 00:20:35,401
on a trip to Moscow and
showed them around the town.

364
00:20:37,804 --> 00:20:40,006
‐ He seems to be playing
a consistent role

365
00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:43,744
in assisting the Trump's
and tapping Russians

366
00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:46,613
or let's say post‐Soviet money

367
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,015
for developing
condominium units.

368
00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:52,052
No co‐op board has to
review whoever is buying.

369
00:20:52,118 --> 00:20:54,420
It's safer than
putting it in the bank.

370
00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:00,761
‐ The Sunny Isles development
is the Florida development

371
00:21:00,827 --> 00:21:03,864
that the Trumps own that
has been heavily populated

372
00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:07,668
by Russians who want
to launder their money.

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00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:09,903
‐ At least a
third of the condos

374
00:21:09,970 --> 00:21:12,939
in Sunny isles, Florida
have been sold to Russia.

375
00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:20,514
‐ Trump's Soho is one of the
promoters of the project.

376
00:21:20,581 --> 00:21:22,883
Alexsandr Mashkevich
has been described

377
00:21:22,949 --> 00:21:24,851
as Mogelivich's banker.

378
00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:30,891
The Trump Tower project
in Baku is located

379
00:21:30,957 --> 00:21:35,562
in the middle of a
post‐industrial sledge pool.

380
00:21:35,629 --> 00:21:38,331
It's just sort of a joke
that they were building this.

381
00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:42,736
‐ Trump World Tower.

382
00:21:42,803 --> 00:21:44,170
I started looking
at who bought into

383
00:21:44,237 --> 00:21:47,040
and the very first name I
came across that was Russian

384
00:21:47,107 --> 00:21:48,274
was that of Eduard Nektalov.

385
00:21:48,341 --> 00:21:51,512
He had been indicted
for money laundering.

386
00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:53,614
He turned state's
evidence and was going

387
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,649
to cooperate with the feds.

388
00:21:55,716 --> 00:21:57,483
He was murdered the next day.

389
00:21:59,853 --> 00:22:01,622
‐ The Toronto Tower.

390
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,857
The source of funding
was the Vensheconobank,

391
00:22:05,892 --> 00:22:10,764
the two twin cash management
tools of the Kremlin.

392
00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:15,936
They go out and become
involved in projects

393
00:22:16,002 --> 00:22:19,506
usually because one
man, Vladimir Putin,

394
00:22:19,573 --> 00:22:21,007
tells them to do so.

395
00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:24,778
That would link this project
straight back to the Kremlin.

396
00:22:27,213 --> 00:22:29,049
‐ I think this is the
tip of the iceberg.

397
00:22:29,115 --> 00:22:33,119
There's been 1.3 trillion
dollars in flight capital

398
00:22:33,186 --> 00:22:35,021
since Putin's become president.

399
00:22:36,256 --> 00:22:39,459
There are over 30 Trump
Towers all over the world.

400
00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:41,928
That means there are
several thousand units.

401
00:22:41,995 --> 00:22:45,065
So many condos that journalists
like me have been unable

402
00:22:45,131 --> 00:22:48,068
to investigate because they
are in Shell companies.

403
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:50,971
‐ Shell corporations
where law enforcement

404
00:22:51,037 --> 00:22:52,906
and the public and the
press can go and see

405
00:22:52,973 --> 00:22:54,107
what the name of
the corporation is

406
00:22:54,174 --> 00:22:56,910
but they can't find out
who's really behind it.

407
00:22:56,977 --> 00:22:57,778
What's really going on.

408
00:22:57,844 --> 00:22:59,112
Who's pulling the strings here.

409
00:22:59,179 --> 00:23:01,748
‐ So a 500 million dollar
condo can change hands

410
00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:02,916
three or four times a year

411
00:23:02,983 --> 00:23:05,118
and you've laundered 20
million dollars or so.

412
00:23:06,887 --> 00:23:08,555
We want to follow the money.

413
00:23:08,622 --> 00:23:10,924
It's clear to me that
a huge amount of it

414
00:23:10,991 --> 00:23:14,861
comes from the Ukraine
Russian energy trade.

415
00:23:14,928 --> 00:23:16,863
‐ Vladimir Putin particularly

416
00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:19,666
has a strong feeling
about Ukraine.

417
00:23:19,733 --> 00:23:23,537
Ukraine was part of Russia
for many, many years.

418
00:23:23,604 --> 00:23:26,172
He feels that needs
to be restored.

419
00:23:29,009 --> 00:23:30,877
‐ Putin has worked to undermine

420
00:23:30,944 --> 00:23:33,046
democracies across the globe.

421
00:23:34,314 --> 00:23:37,250
‐ You had a couple of
people running for president.

422
00:23:37,317 --> 00:23:40,821
‐ Viktor Yanukovich
who appeared to be

423
00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:43,824
more interested in keeping
Ukraine aligned with Russia.

424
00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:46,159
Significant amounts of
money coming from Russia

425
00:23:46,226 --> 00:23:48,695
into the Yanukovich campaign.

426
00:23:48,762 --> 00:23:52,232
‐ His competitor on the
other side, Yuschenko,

427
00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:54,935
was a Ukrainian politician.

428
00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:59,773
A reputation of being clean
and fair and pro‐western.

429
00:24:00,974 --> 00:24:03,910
Yulia Tymoshenko entered
the Yushenko campaign.

430
00:24:03,977 --> 00:24:05,712
She was a politician.

431
00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:07,581
‐ Tymoshenko, in my experience,

432
00:24:07,648 --> 00:24:09,783
she was by the far the
most effective minister

433
00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:11,151
in the Ukrainian cabinet.

434
00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:14,220
‐ Well, I was working for
Senator McCain in 2004.

435
00:24:14,287 --> 00:24:15,556
And we visited.

436
00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,858
We met with Yuschenko.

437
00:24:17,924 --> 00:24:20,894
They just said, I'm afraid
they're gonna try to kill him.

438
00:24:20,961 --> 00:24:22,128
Within a matter of months

439
00:24:22,195 --> 00:24:24,531
he had been poisoned
and almost was killed.

440
00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:27,200
‐ A disfiguring poisoning.

441
00:24:27,267 --> 00:24:28,935
It destroyed his looks.

442
00:24:29,002 --> 00:24:31,071
Scarred his face.

443
00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:35,542
‐ Quite convinced it
was a KGB operation.

444
00:24:35,609 --> 00:24:38,679
‐ He was off the campaign
trail for about four weeks.

445
00:24:38,745 --> 00:24:40,280
It also had a
second effect, too,

446
00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:42,716
was it really
hardened his resolve.

447
00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:03,003
‐ And not in the
Soviet Union republic.

448
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:06,673
‐ During the election
there was lots of evidence

449
00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:09,042
that something had gone wrong.

450
00:25:12,045 --> 00:25:15,081
‐ At that time Ukrainian
intelligence agencies

451
00:25:15,148 --> 00:25:17,751
detected that there were
hackers who actually tried

452
00:25:17,818 --> 00:25:20,621
to break into the central
election commission.

453
00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:24,024
So they were trying to change
the results of the votes.

454
00:25:24,090 --> 00:25:26,693
‐ And those parts that
had voted for Yanukovich

455
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,962
turned out in excess
of 100% was reported.

456
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:30,296
‐ The country's
election commission

457
00:25:30,363 --> 00:25:31,732
ignored reports of fraud

458
00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:35,936
declaring Kremlin‐backed
victory Yanukovich the winner.

459
00:25:37,137 --> 00:25:41,808
‐ The election was, in the eyes
of most Ukrainians, stolen.

460
00:25:48,815 --> 00:25:50,851
The Ukrainians had enough.

461
00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:53,987
And the Orange Revolution
consisted of people coming out

462
00:25:54,054 --> 00:25:55,355
to the central Kiev square

463
00:25:55,421 --> 00:25:59,660
and saying, no, we're not
going to accept a bad election.

464
00:26:08,101 --> 00:26:12,606
‐ The Ukrainian Supreme Court
basically ruled a do over.

465
00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:29,155
‐ Russia opposed that idea
because they understood correctly

466
00:26:29,222 --> 00:26:31,057
that if it was done
in a free and fair way

467
00:26:31,124 --> 00:26:33,293
that Mr. Yanukovich
would not win.

468
00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:37,430
‐ And Yuschenko
became president.

469
00:26:37,497 --> 00:26:40,233
‐ His prime minister
was Yulia Tymoshenko.

470
00:26:41,902 --> 00:26:44,671
‐ So this week has
a unique feel to it

471
00:26:44,738 --> 00:26:46,840
as we all have the
profound privilege

472
00:26:46,907 --> 00:26:49,776
of welcoming president
Viktor Yuschenko to‐‐

473
00:26:56,349 --> 00:26:58,885
‐ Protection from the
regime of mobsters

474
00:26:58,952 --> 00:27:00,921
is only a matter
that can cause hope.

475
00:27:01,888 --> 00:27:03,223
We faced a very similar choice.

476
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:06,326
It was not a choice between
the left and the right.

477
00:27:06,392 --> 00:27:10,396
It was the choice between
totalitarian regime and democracy.

478
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,933
It has betrayed
the future at best.

479
00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:16,169
‐ Viktor Yanukovich
predicted more turmoil ahead.

480
00:27:16,236 --> 00:27:18,038
I am ready to lead, he said.

481
00:27:18,104 --> 00:27:20,774
Yuschenko will find out what
opposition really means.

482
00:27:21,942 --> 00:27:25,245
‐ Mr. Manafort came
to Ukraine late 2004.

483
00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:28,081
Yanukovich had been
fairly badly discredited.

484
00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:38,391
The role that I saw
for Mr. Manafort

485
00:27:38,458 --> 00:27:42,128
was somebody tried to
rehabilitate Mr. Yanukovich.

486
00:27:42,195 --> 00:27:46,232
‐ Paul Manafort has been a
Washington political consultant

487
00:27:46,299 --> 00:27:48,034
for a long, long time.

488
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:51,104
‐ Paul Manafort,
a top campaign strategist

489
00:27:51,171 --> 00:27:52,272
for President Bush.

490
00:27:58,011 --> 00:28:00,280
‐ Bob Dole was the
last one who brought him on

491
00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:02,382
as the head of the
convention at that point.

492
00:28:02,448 --> 00:28:04,284
‐ We are ready, not
only to continue to lead

493
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:06,286
in the Congress but to
take the White House.

494
00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:07,187
‐ He had disappeared.

495
00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:09,022
No one knew what he was doing.

496
00:28:14,528 --> 00:28:17,163
‐ It's impossible
that Paul Manafort was not

497
00:28:17,230 --> 00:28:20,166
at least run past the
Russian government

498
00:28:20,233 --> 00:28:23,236
because Manafort was
very close to Yanukovich.

499
00:28:23,303 --> 00:28:25,972
And Yanukovich was so
close to the Kremlin.

500
00:28:29,142 --> 00:28:31,812
‐ The big switch from western,
the western point of view

501
00:28:31,878 --> 00:28:34,781
was the Munich security
conference speech.

502
00:28:36,216 --> 00:28:39,319
‐ The United States has
overstepped its national borders

503
00:28:39,385 --> 00:28:40,521
in every way.

504
00:28:40,587 --> 00:28:43,957
Of course such a policy
stimulates an arms race.

505
00:28:44,024 --> 00:28:45,859
No one feels safe.

506
00:28:45,926 --> 00:28:48,228
‐ Senator Joe Lieberman
and I were sitting

507
00:28:48,294 --> 00:28:51,031
in assigned seats
in the front row.

508
00:28:51,097 --> 00:28:53,567
And he would utter
a phrase in Russian

509
00:28:53,634 --> 00:28:57,303
and after he would say, he'd
look over at the two of us

510
00:28:57,370 --> 00:29:00,473
like that, you know, I said
what is it with this guy?

511
00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:03,276
‐ I very often.

512
00:29:03,343 --> 00:29:04,377
He repeals by our partners.

513
00:29:04,444 --> 00:29:05,646
The effect that
Russia should play

514
00:29:05,712 --> 00:29:09,082
an increasingly active
role in world affairs.

515
00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:11,785
‐ That was 2007.

516
00:29:13,053 --> 00:29:15,188
Two months later they
did the cyber‐attack

517
00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:20,260
on my country because we really
didn't want a Soviet statue

518
00:29:21,528 --> 00:29:23,063
in the middle of town.

519
00:29:24,397 --> 00:29:25,899
We didn't tear it down.

520
00:29:25,966 --> 00:29:27,300
We moved it.

521
00:29:27,367 --> 00:29:30,571
We figured, okay, this is
important for some people.

522
00:29:30,637 --> 00:29:35,075
But even that was sort
of enough of an offense.

523
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,983
The 9th of May with the
day the Russians celebrate

524
00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:46,620
the end of World War II no one
could get into any websites

525
00:29:46,687 --> 00:29:51,191
including the banks, any
government sites, news media.

526
00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:53,627
I mean, it's clear they did it.

527
00:29:53,694 --> 00:29:55,996
A year later they
invaded Georgia.

528
00:29:58,298 --> 00:30:00,400
‐ After the collapse
of the Soviet Union,

529
00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:04,137
Georgia was controlled by
mafias and criminal gangs

530
00:30:04,204 --> 00:30:05,972
that were known
as thieves‐in‐law.

531
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:10,911
‐ Then came the revolution
and Misha Saakashvili

532
00:30:10,977 --> 00:30:12,245
became their president.

533
00:30:16,382 --> 00:30:19,119
And made, really, very
significant changes

534
00:30:19,185 --> 00:30:21,287
and improvement to the country.

535
00:30:21,354 --> 00:30:23,289
‐ After years of
the Georgian economy

536
00:30:23,356 --> 00:30:25,959
being a basket case
suddenly starts to roar.

537
00:30:26,026 --> 00:30:29,195
He had a vision of Georgia
in NATO and the EU.

538
00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:30,363
The Russians hated it.

539
00:30:31,464 --> 00:30:34,367
‐ As long as you
have these blocs,

540
00:30:34,434 --> 00:30:36,036
NATO and the European Union,

541
00:30:36,102 --> 00:30:40,140
they're bigger, richer, stronger,
more powerful than Russia.

542
00:30:42,709 --> 00:30:46,279
But if you reduce them
to their individual parts

543
00:30:46,346 --> 00:30:49,049
each of these countries
is far weaker than Russia.

544
00:30:50,383 --> 00:30:53,654
‐ They kept provoking the
Georgians more and more

545
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,355
and more and more.

546
00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:57,057
They wanted a war.

547
00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,393
‐ They started to say the war.

548
00:31:01,562 --> 00:31:04,030
At first he started
to tell it to me.

549
00:31:04,097 --> 00:31:05,431
To some western leaders.

550
00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:11,304
Looked like the west
was the wandering life,

551
00:31:11,371 --> 00:31:14,207
wanted somewhere and Russians
knew where they were going.

552
00:31:16,643 --> 00:31:18,612
Then we had direct
military attacks.

553
00:31:20,246 --> 00:31:24,150
‐ In the middle of the opening
ceremonies of the Olympics,

554
00:31:24,217 --> 00:31:25,586
the Russians invaded Georgia.

555
00:31:35,161 --> 00:31:36,262
‐ Wake up, wake up.

556
00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:38,632
We are attacked because
we wanted to be free.

557
00:31:38,699 --> 00:31:40,200
We are attacked
because we wanted

558
00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:41,267
to build genuine democracy.

559
00:31:41,334 --> 00:31:43,637
If Americans and
Europeans don't stand up

560
00:31:43,704 --> 00:31:46,372
for their own values,
for their own principles,

561
00:31:46,439 --> 00:31:48,509
then those principles and
values will be in danger

562
00:31:48,575 --> 00:31:50,744
to the Georgia,
tomorrow elsewhere.

563
00:31:50,811 --> 00:31:52,746
‐ But the Russians then
spent a lot of time

564
00:31:52,813 --> 00:31:55,649
convincing everyone the
Georgians started the war.

565
00:31:55,716 --> 00:31:57,150
It's Saakashvili's fault.

566
00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:59,452
He was dangerous and a madman.

567
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,522
‐ Russia has criticized
the western media

568
00:32:01,588 --> 00:32:04,525
for what it's called it's
biosphere on the conflict.

569
00:32:04,591 --> 00:32:06,593
Not all journalists blame
Russia for the conflict.

570
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:07,994
Alex Jones?

571
00:32:08,061 --> 00:32:10,296
‐ I just hope Russia
keeps troops in Georgia

572
00:32:10,363 --> 00:32:11,732
because the dictator,

573
00:32:11,798 --> 00:32:14,467
and we know he was elected
under fraud there in Georgia

574
00:32:14,535 --> 00:32:16,637
has said that he plans,
he said it last week,

575
00:32:16,703 --> 00:32:18,438
to attack again.

576
00:32:18,505 --> 00:32:21,474
‐ Allegation that Georgia
would attack Russia

577
00:32:21,542 --> 00:32:25,746
is so foolish and
outrageous and disgraceful.

578
00:32:25,812 --> 00:32:28,081
But it's typical
of Vladimir Putin.

579
00:32:29,516 --> 00:32:31,351
‐ They did not
achieve the collapse

580
00:32:31,417 --> 00:32:33,086
of the Saakashvili government.

581
00:32:33,153 --> 00:32:35,088
It cost them a lot in respect,

582
00:32:35,155 --> 00:32:37,157
in international relationships.

583
00:32:37,223 --> 00:32:39,092
And their military
was really exposed

584
00:32:39,159 --> 00:32:41,261
as something weaker
than they all thought.

585
00:32:42,596 --> 00:32:44,698
So there was this whole
portfolio of kind of rethinking

586
00:32:44,765 --> 00:32:47,634
what are the political
warfare tools

587
00:32:47,701 --> 00:32:49,970
that we have that we can use.

588
00:32:51,437 --> 00:32:54,274
‐ They began to increase
their funding to far right

589
00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:58,211
nationalistic white
supremacists political parties.

590
00:32:58,278 --> 00:33:01,682
‐ In democracies, public
opinion is your battlefield.

591
00:33:01,748 --> 00:33:03,817
It's finding those
affinity groups.

592
00:33:03,884 --> 00:33:05,519
They don't like globalization.

593
00:33:05,586 --> 00:33:07,588
They're very fearful
of immigration.

594
00:33:07,654 --> 00:33:08,421
They're xenophobic.

595
00:33:08,488 --> 00:33:10,791
And that fear is then used

596
00:33:10,857 --> 00:33:13,560
by Russian disinformation
operations to say

597
00:33:13,627 --> 00:33:16,429
you're not being protected
from migration crisis,

598
00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:20,233
from the social changes
that we see around you.

599
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:24,538
Gazprom and others, they were
purchasing local affiliates

600
00:33:24,605 --> 00:33:27,440
so it looked like less Russian,
had less of a Russian face.

601
00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:31,477
‐ Gazprom is the world's
largest gas company.

602
00:33:31,545 --> 00:33:36,149
It and its resources
are used to help achieve

603
00:33:36,216 --> 00:33:38,652
the political objectives
of the Russian state.

604
00:33:38,719 --> 00:33:41,555
‐ When the economics
and the politics combine

605
00:33:41,622 --> 00:33:44,257
in fact the, it's state capture.

606
00:33:44,324 --> 00:33:48,361
The national government
cannot take independent action

607
00:33:48,428 --> 00:33:53,433
that does not follow
Russia's policy interests.

608
00:33:54,635 --> 00:33:55,902
‐ It's far better to
expend your energy

609
00:33:55,969 --> 00:33:59,673
on getting a Russia
friendly government elected

610
00:33:59,740 --> 00:34:01,708
than it is to have to
build up your military

611
00:34:01,775 --> 00:34:03,409
to invade the country.

612
00:34:05,546 --> 00:34:07,480
‐ There was the Russian
oligarchy, Ivanishvili,

613
00:34:07,548 --> 00:34:10,450
who was biggest private
shareholder of Russia Gazprom.

614
00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:14,621
Suddenly Ivanishvili announced
that he was entering politics

615
00:34:14,688 --> 00:34:16,356
and he will run against us.

616
00:34:16,422 --> 00:34:17,691
‐ They wanted to believe

617
00:34:17,758 --> 00:34:21,294
that he was this independent
weirdo businessman.

618
00:34:21,361 --> 00:34:23,229
He must be a very
successful man.

619
00:34:23,296 --> 00:34:25,666
Nobody wanted to believe
he was what he is,

620
00:34:25,732 --> 00:34:29,770
a front for Russian
engagement in the country.

621
00:34:29,836 --> 00:34:32,506
The campaign in Georgia
before the 2012 election

622
00:34:32,573 --> 00:34:35,676
had been increasingly dirty
and hostile and violent.

623
00:34:35,742 --> 00:34:38,378
‐ So the narrative
was that no matter

624
00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:41,147
what you will falsify,
rig the elections.

625
00:34:41,214 --> 00:34:43,517
And then they would
take it to the streets.

626
00:34:43,584 --> 00:34:44,685
‐ There was a lot of discussion

627
00:34:44,751 --> 00:34:46,386
about political prosecution.

628
00:34:46,452 --> 00:34:47,854
If they won they would have put

629
00:34:47,921 --> 00:34:50,156
the entire former
government in prison,

630
00:34:50,223 --> 00:34:51,257
that these were all criminal.

631
00:34:51,324 --> 00:34:52,859
Some of it was
really cheap stuff.

632
00:34:52,926 --> 00:34:54,695
Saakashvili is
really an Armenian.

633
00:34:54,761 --> 00:34:56,530
He's not really a Georgian.

634
00:34:58,699 --> 00:35:00,601
‐ That's a technique the
Russians use quite a bit.

635
00:35:00,667 --> 00:35:02,202
The best way to
discredit somebody

636
00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:03,837
is to make them
appear inauthentic.

637
00:35:03,904 --> 00:35:06,840
They're not part of the
community which they say they are.

638
00:35:06,907 --> 00:35:08,609
‐ Then it's picked
up by other media.

639
00:35:08,675 --> 00:35:10,644
It's sort of spread
about social media.

640
00:35:11,845 --> 00:35:14,380
Eventually people sort of say
some of this must be true.

641
00:35:16,683 --> 00:35:18,952
‐ Mafia bosses, from Russia

642
00:35:19,019 --> 00:35:21,855
try to help to organize
mass disturbances.

643
00:35:24,625 --> 00:35:26,392
They listened to our
telephone conversations,

644
00:35:26,459 --> 00:35:28,595
especially when we were
calling from abroad.

645
00:35:30,697 --> 00:35:33,266
For whatever similar situation
would ignite in Georgia

646
00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:36,603
they always had intercepts
for all kind of situations.

647
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:38,739
‐ No party in Georgia
could have been

648
00:35:38,805 --> 00:35:40,674
in a real popular
way for Russian.

649
00:35:40,741 --> 00:35:42,275
And Ivanishvili knew that.

650
00:35:42,342 --> 00:35:43,677
So you had a new
message on Russia.

651
00:35:43,744 --> 00:35:45,546
It was wouldn't it be nice

652
00:35:45,612 --> 00:35:47,814
if we had a better
relationship with Russia?

653
00:35:54,821 --> 00:35:56,790
‐ About two weeks
before the vote,

654
00:35:56,857 --> 00:35:58,592
there was the
release of the first

655
00:35:58,659 --> 00:36:01,695
of what became known as
the prison abuse tapes.

656
00:36:01,762 --> 00:36:03,730
‐ The images looked very bad.

657
00:36:03,797 --> 00:36:06,366
After initial shock, people
started to look at the image.

658
00:36:06,432 --> 00:36:10,303
In details they explain to us
that the whole thing was fake.

659
00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:12,839
Later we discovered that
this thing was done by guys

660
00:36:12,906 --> 00:36:16,309
with very well‐known Russian
intelligence connections.

661
00:36:16,376 --> 00:36:17,778
But it was too late.

662
00:36:17,844 --> 00:36:19,746
‐ On Tuesday
President Saakashvili

663
00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:23,483
conceded he lost the closely
fought parliamentary vote.

664
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:26,687
‐ 65 or so former officials
have been arrested,

665
00:36:26,753 --> 00:36:28,288
detained, or convicted.

666
00:36:29,756 --> 00:36:31,858
Saakashvili will be arrested
if he goes back to Georgia.

667
00:36:40,801 --> 00:36:42,736
‐ And then you saw the
allowing of Russian money

668
00:36:42,803 --> 00:36:44,671
back into Georgia's
full society.

669
00:36:44,738 --> 00:36:47,741
‐ We are returning Georgia
product to the Russian market.

670
00:36:47,808 --> 00:36:49,342
‐ His wealth and his fortune

671
00:36:49,409 --> 00:36:51,745
are all connected
to the Kremlin.

672
00:36:51,812 --> 00:36:54,981
That means he can never be
independent of what they want.

673
00:36:55,048 --> 00:36:57,751
‐ Putin had told the
National Security Council

674
00:36:57,818 --> 00:36:59,686
that Georgian elections
were the most successful

675
00:36:59,753 --> 00:37:01,888
special operation they ever had.

676
00:37:04,825 --> 00:37:06,660
They learned that
any democratic system

677
00:37:06,727 --> 00:37:10,063
is essentially very vulnerable
to this kind of meddling.

678
00:37:10,130 --> 00:37:12,699
Full corruption,
information campaigns,

679
00:37:12,766 --> 00:37:14,668
character destructions,

680
00:37:14,735 --> 00:37:17,704
and then your adversary's
much more vulnerable.

681
00:37:17,771 --> 00:37:20,507
Then it's nothing about their
economy size or military size.

682
00:37:20,574 --> 00:37:21,908
It's about their state of mind.

683
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,482
‐ In Ukraine Putin
did the same thing.

684
00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:33,987
‐ Ukraine is about 100%
dependent on Russia for natural gas.

685
00:37:34,054 --> 00:37:36,823
‐ Instead of there being
direct sales from Gazprom

686
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:40,460
there were a whole series
of intermediary companies

687
00:37:40,527 --> 00:37:43,830
which seemed to be controlled
by a man named Dmitry Firtash.

688
00:37:47,601 --> 00:37:50,604
Dmitry Firtash, a
Pro‐Putin oligarch.

689
00:37:51,905 --> 00:37:55,609
He had worked with
Mogilevich, the crime boss.

690
00:37:55,676 --> 00:37:58,845
They siphon off lots of
money from this Gazprom.

691
00:37:58,912 --> 00:38:00,246
Billions of dollars.

692
00:38:00,313 --> 00:38:03,650
‐ Firtash was very
close to Vladimir Putin.

693
00:38:03,717 --> 00:38:08,021
Paul Manafort was a
business partner of Firtash.

694
00:38:08,088 --> 00:38:09,222
‐ Ukrainian politicians.

695
00:38:09,289 --> 00:38:12,392
It was all just whisper
the name Paul Manafort.

696
00:38:12,458 --> 00:38:16,496
He was the dark prince
in the background,

697
00:38:16,563 --> 00:38:18,565
orchestrating everything.

698
00:38:22,135 --> 00:38:24,004
He was viewed as a man
who was the connection

699
00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:27,808
between the Kremlin and
pro‐Russian party in Ukraine

700
00:38:27,874 --> 00:38:31,377
to advance Russian
political interests.

701
00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:36,850
‐ Russia was buying
up utilities.

702
00:38:36,917 --> 00:38:39,586
The oligarchs were
doing Putin's bidding.

703
00:38:39,653 --> 00:38:41,955
It cut off Ukraine's
energy supply.

704
00:38:45,726 --> 00:38:46,993
‐ It's really a terrible thing

705
00:38:47,060 --> 00:38:48,962
if someone is killed by a bullet

706
00:38:49,029 --> 00:38:51,632
but isn't it terrible
if you shut down

707
00:38:51,698 --> 00:38:52,899
the power in the winter?

708
00:38:53,934 --> 00:38:56,737
‐ In 2009, after about two weeks

709
00:38:56,803 --> 00:38:57,838
meeting with President Putin,

710
00:38:57,904 --> 00:39:01,007
Prime Minster Tymoshenko
negotiated a deal

711
00:39:01,074 --> 00:39:03,544
that ended the gas cutoff.

712
00:39:05,045 --> 00:39:06,613
‐ The
presidential elections

713
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,915
head for a pulsating climax.

714
00:39:08,982 --> 00:39:10,416
In the orange corner

715
00:39:10,483 --> 00:39:13,887
the current poor western prime
minister, Yulia Tymoshenko.

716
00:39:14,888 --> 00:39:16,156
In the blue corner,

717
00:39:16,222 --> 00:39:19,459
pro‐Moscow opposition
leader Viktor Yanukovich.

718
00:39:19,526 --> 00:39:20,761
‐
Manafort was remaking

719
00:39:20,827 --> 00:39:23,664
Yanukovych's overall
appearance and personality

720
00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:25,932
as a politician to make
him more palatable.

721
00:39:29,169 --> 00:39:31,104
‐ When he
said no to a TV debate,

722
00:39:31,171 --> 00:39:34,374
she went ahead with it anyway
facing an empty podium.

723
00:39:52,826 --> 00:39:54,928
‐ Viktor
Yanukovich claimed victory

724
00:39:54,995 --> 00:39:57,497
in the Ukraine
presidential election.

725
00:40:02,703 --> 00:40:04,538
‐ Once Viktor Yanukovich
had become president

726
00:40:04,605 --> 00:40:05,972
one of the things
they were trying

727
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,642
to go after Tymoshenko
for was, in fact,

728
00:40:08,709 --> 00:40:10,711
that gas arrangement
she had done.

729
00:40:10,777 --> 00:40:11,878
‐ She
compared the case

730
00:40:11,945 --> 00:40:14,047
to a Stalinist show trial.

731
00:40:14,114 --> 00:40:16,249
‐ All this
was staged in advance

732
00:40:16,316 --> 00:40:18,118
of the president's
administration

733
00:40:18,184 --> 00:40:19,520
to eliminate the opposition.

734
00:40:19,586 --> 00:40:23,156
‐ It may have been a bad
deal but it certainly wasn't

735
00:40:23,223 --> 00:40:26,059
the criminal action that
the Ukrainian government

736
00:40:26,126 --> 00:40:28,094
under Yanukovich
charged her with.

737
00:40:35,035 --> 00:40:36,870
‐ A seven year
prison term and an order

738
00:40:36,937 --> 00:40:40,040
that she pay 200 million
dollars in compensation.

739
00:40:54,888 --> 00:40:56,523
‐ From
prison, Tymoshenko staged

740
00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:57,958
a temporary hunger strike

741
00:40:58,024 --> 00:40:59,826
saying she'd been
beaten by guards

742
00:40:59,893 --> 00:41:01,828
and needed immediate
medical attention.

743
00:41:10,303 --> 00:41:11,437
‐ In a lawsuit that was filed

744
00:41:11,505 --> 00:41:13,974
by the former prime
minister of Ukraine,

745
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,011
there were some rather
striking court documents

746
00:41:19,913 --> 00:41:22,716
referring to Manafort's role,

747
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:27,287
and including his
business relationships,

748
00:41:27,353 --> 00:41:32,559
real estate deals with a Russian
oligarch, Dmitry Firtash.

749
00:41:33,627 --> 00:41:35,896
Paul Manafort was in business

750
00:41:35,962 --> 00:41:40,967
with not one but two
Russian oligarchs.

751
00:41:42,002 --> 00:41:44,938
Dmitry Firtash, who
was under indictment

752
00:41:45,005 --> 00:41:46,673
by the U. S. Justice Department.

753
00:41:51,878 --> 00:41:55,181
Another, Deripaska, who
had been denied entry

754
00:41:55,248 --> 00:41:56,416
into the United States

755
00:41:56,482 --> 00:41:59,019
because of suspected
organized crime ties.

756
00:42:00,186 --> 00:42:04,024
‐ Paul Manafort signed a
contract with Oleg Derispaska

757
00:42:04,090 --> 00:42:07,227
to promote the Kremlin and
the Kremlin's interests.

758
00:42:09,996 --> 00:42:14,701
Quoting Deripaska, Putin
told him Manafort's our man.

759
00:42:21,007 --> 00:42:24,811
‐ Paul Manafort got his home
in Trump Towers in 2006.

760
00:42:27,113 --> 00:42:30,884
You can easily see billions
of dollars being siphoned off

761
00:42:30,951 --> 00:42:33,854
from that Ukraine
Russian energy trade

762
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,323
and going through
Firtash to Paul Manafort

763
00:42:37,390 --> 00:42:40,661
and to Russians or Ukrainians
who were buying condos

764
00:42:40,727 --> 00:42:42,295
in Trump‐branded properties.

765
00:42:48,368 --> 00:42:50,904
‐ Russia has three main
tactics for engaging

766
00:42:50,971 --> 00:42:52,739
in what we call active measures.

767
00:42:52,806 --> 00:42:55,041
Propaganda, cyber‐attacks.

768
00:42:55,108 --> 00:42:57,010
Most people don't
focus on a third pillar

769
00:42:57,077 --> 00:43:00,146
of Russian active measures
which is to recruit and enlist

770
00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:03,349
and in some cases run
agents of influence.

771
00:43:08,221 --> 00:43:09,255
‐ The Russians, with their

772
00:43:09,322 --> 00:43:12,192
full‐time intelligence
operatives.

773
00:43:13,393 --> 00:43:16,797
There's probably way
over 1,000 of those

774
00:43:16,863 --> 00:43:18,364
in the United States.

775
00:43:18,431 --> 00:43:20,701
‐ The FBI does its best to try

776
00:43:20,767 --> 00:43:23,436
to monitor Russian
intelligence officers

777
00:43:23,504 --> 00:43:26,807
here in the United States
but there are so many of them

778
00:43:26,873 --> 00:43:30,176
and frankly the FBI's
resources are so limited.

779
00:43:30,243 --> 00:43:35,248
‐ When I did cases I actually
had to decide on which days

780
00:43:36,449 --> 00:43:40,754
I wanted the FBI surveillance
group to watch my target.

781
00:43:43,824 --> 00:43:45,025
‐ We had no idea.

782
00:43:45,091 --> 00:43:47,828
They just seemed like
a nice, quiet family.

783
00:43:49,395 --> 00:43:53,834
‐ If you look at either as
Russian agents or as Russians

784
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:58,071
who work on disinformation
there are more of them

785
00:43:58,138 --> 00:44:00,240
than there are Russians
in the armed forces.

786
00:44:01,274 --> 00:44:04,277
So a thousand.

787
00:44:04,344 --> 00:44:06,079
‐ These can be
individuals who know

788
00:44:06,146 --> 00:44:08,849
that they are spying for
Russian intelligence.

789
00:44:08,915 --> 00:44:10,817
Know that they are
committing espionage.

790
00:44:10,884 --> 00:44:14,487
Or can refer to some
individuals who just aren't sure

791
00:44:14,555 --> 00:44:16,322
exactly who they're
dealing with.

792
00:44:16,389 --> 00:44:20,160
Maybe it's bankers,
maybe its financiers.

793
00:44:20,226 --> 00:44:22,328
Maybe it's people on the
periphery of government

794
00:44:22,395 --> 00:44:26,867
doing something that the
Russian government wants.

795
00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:28,802
‐ It seems that
anybody who was anybody

796
00:44:28,869 --> 00:44:32,072
in Russian organized crime
who came to Manhattan

797
00:44:32,138 --> 00:44:34,240
bought a condo unit
in Trump tower.

798
00:44:34,307 --> 00:44:37,110
There were gambling
operations going on there

799
00:44:37,177 --> 00:44:39,746
and prostitution operations.

800
00:44:39,813 --> 00:44:42,148
These investigations
were leading to Trump

801
00:44:42,215 --> 00:44:43,449
over and over and over again.

802
00:44:45,218 --> 00:44:48,321
‐ Christopher Steele is a
former MI6 specialist in Russia.

803
00:44:48,388 --> 00:44:51,457
The U. S. investigator firm
commissioned Mr. Steele

804
00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:55,161
to look at Mr. Trump and Russia.

805
00:44:55,228 --> 00:44:56,630
It was a very general assignment

806
00:44:56,697 --> 00:44:59,766
and he found an extensive
set of relations with Russia.

807
00:45:02,368 --> 00:45:05,005
‐ He was generally
held in very high regard.

808
00:45:05,071 --> 00:45:08,208
Had a reputation of also
for working with the FBI.

809
00:45:08,274 --> 00:45:11,044
‐ He helped the FBI
make the FIFA cases.

810
00:45:12,212 --> 00:45:13,146
‐ Major
corruption crackdown

811
00:45:13,213 --> 00:45:14,881
going down right now.

812
00:45:14,948 --> 00:45:16,149
Arrests made around the world.

813
00:45:16,216 --> 00:45:17,317
‐ This is the result

814
00:45:17,383 --> 00:45:19,185
of a three year long
FBI investigation.

815
00:45:19,252 --> 00:45:20,386
‐ He broke the case.

816
00:45:20,453 --> 00:45:24,290
He gave them access
to the key witnesses

817
00:45:24,357 --> 00:45:27,293
that they used to get the
pretty spectacular results

818
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,295
that they ultimately got.

819
00:45:30,531 --> 00:45:34,167
‐ Alexander Litvinenko,
who's a former FSB agent.

820
00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:39,239
When he sought asylum in London
he started working for MI6.

821
00:45:40,373 --> 00:45:42,275
His handler was
Christopher Steele.

822
00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:46,580
He was trying to expose
that Vladimir Putin

823
00:45:46,647 --> 00:45:49,249
was closely linked
to Semion Mogilevich,

824
00:45:49,315 --> 00:45:52,152
the crime boss of Russia.

825
00:45:52,218 --> 00:45:55,288
Litvinenko was eventually
poisoned by polonium

826
00:45:55,355 --> 00:45:59,025
in a murder that was very
directly linked to Russia.

827
00:46:00,426 --> 00:46:03,964
So when Mr. Steele was
hired to do oppo research

828
00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:08,301
on Donald Trump he was very,
very knowledgeable indeed.

829
00:46:09,603 --> 00:46:13,306
‐ The Steele Dossier
was a set of reports

830
00:46:13,373 --> 00:46:15,075
that Mr. Steele wrote.

831
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:22,215
‐ All of its allegations fall
into one of three categories.

832
00:46:25,151 --> 00:46:30,156
Not yet proven, proven to
be true, and have an error

833
00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:39,533
that is consistent
with transcription

834
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,135
or transliteration problems.

835
00:46:42,202 --> 00:46:45,305
‐ It was said to
Mr. Steele's sources

836
00:46:45,371 --> 00:46:50,043
that Russia had turned Mr.
Trump for many, many years.

837
00:46:51,945 --> 00:46:53,346
In the course of work
on Russia matters,

838
00:46:53,413 --> 00:46:55,348
I came to know Mr. Steele.

839
00:46:55,415 --> 00:46:58,619
I work with people
who I can trust.

840
00:46:58,685 --> 00:46:59,986
Yes, I trusted Chris Steele.

841
00:47:00,053 --> 00:47:01,988
I still trust Chris Steele.

842
00:47:02,055 --> 00:47:03,123
‐ Look at Putin what
he's doing with,

843
00:47:03,189 --> 00:47:05,225
I mean, you know, what's
going on over there.

844
00:47:05,291 --> 00:47:06,392
I mean, this guy has done,

845
00:47:06,459 --> 00:47:09,195
whether you like him
or don't like him

846
00:47:09,262 --> 00:47:13,033
he's doing a great job in
rebuilding the image of Russia.

847
00:47:13,099 --> 00:47:15,435
And also rebuilding
Russia period.

848
00:47:15,501 --> 00:47:19,906
‐ Putin seeks the veneer
of democratic legitimacy

849
00:47:19,973 --> 00:47:22,342
but there cannot be choice.

850
00:47:22,408 --> 00:47:25,178
In the Russian
constitution you cannot run

851
00:47:25,245 --> 00:47:26,947
for a third term as president.

852
00:47:27,013 --> 00:47:30,450
So what he did was to
find a very close member

853
00:47:30,517 --> 00:47:33,987
of his inner circle to
agree to be president

854
00:47:34,054 --> 00:47:35,255
while he could be prime minster.

855
00:47:39,125 --> 00:47:43,463
‐ He is someone who is obviously
being installed by Putin

856
00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:48,301
and it raises serious
issues about how we're going

857
00:47:48,368 --> 00:47:50,103
to deal with Russia
going forward.

858
00:47:51,572 --> 00:47:55,041
‐ Putin faces what I call
the King Lear problem.

859
00:47:55,108 --> 00:47:58,411
You can't resign to
a comfortable life

860
00:47:58,478 --> 00:48:02,182
because of the things you've
done when you were king.

861
00:48:02,248 --> 00:48:06,119
But the constitutional
forms were observed.

862
00:48:17,130 --> 00:48:18,565
‐ When Putin returned
to the presidency,

863
00:48:18,632 --> 00:48:19,933
by that point I
think it was about

864
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,368
to the least surprising
development that any of us

865
00:48:22,435 --> 00:48:24,337
had seen in Russia
in a long time.

866
00:48:24,404 --> 00:48:26,406
‐ I mean, you can imagine
the conversation with Putin.

867
00:48:26,472 --> 00:48:27,508
Vladimir.

868
00:48:28,742 --> 00:48:29,776
You think you'd like
to be president again?

869
00:48:29,843 --> 00:48:33,647
I think I would.

870
00:48:39,419 --> 00:48:43,524
‐ The election was clearly
unfair and illegitimate.

871
00:48:43,590 --> 00:48:46,459
I said that on behalf
of the United States.

872
00:48:46,527 --> 00:48:49,996
We just witnessed a flawed
duma election in Russia

873
00:48:50,063 --> 00:48:54,467
including efforts to halt
the election monitoring.

874
00:48:54,535 --> 00:48:57,003
And Russian voters deserve
a full investigation

875
00:48:57,070 --> 00:48:59,640
of electoral fraud
and manipulation.

876
00:48:59,706 --> 00:49:01,975
I wasn't the only
person who thought that.

877
00:49:05,512 --> 00:49:09,082
‐ He encountered the
largest public demonstrations

878
00:49:09,149 --> 00:49:10,517
of his tenure.

879
00:49:12,853 --> 00:49:14,721
‐ They shouted
Putin is a thief.

880
00:49:14,788 --> 00:49:17,524
‐ Which terrified him because
of the Orange Revolution.

881
00:49:19,092 --> 00:49:22,395
Because of the uprisings
that took place

882
00:49:22,462 --> 00:49:25,298
post collapse of
the Soviet Union

883
00:49:25,365 --> 00:49:27,768
in places that
wanted more than just

884
00:49:27,834 --> 00:49:30,436
a different form of autocracy.

885
00:49:30,504 --> 00:49:32,539
‐ If you look at
the crowds of those

886
00:49:32,606 --> 00:49:33,940
that were in the protest,

887
00:49:34,007 --> 00:49:37,477
I'll bet ya nine out of 10
of them were under age 25.

888
00:49:37,544 --> 00:49:39,479
They don't want that
kind of a government.

889
00:49:39,546 --> 00:49:41,347
They want to be
like the Europeans.

890
00:49:41,414 --> 00:49:43,483
And I think that Vladimir
Putin has not seen

891
00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:45,519
the last of these protests.

892
00:49:45,586 --> 00:49:48,288
‐ And then he attacked
me and accused me

893
00:49:48,354 --> 00:49:50,757
of inciting the demonstrations

894
00:49:50,824 --> 00:49:53,293
that really were grassroots
from the bottom up.

895
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:56,763
‐ Putin blamed
her very publicly.

896
00:49:56,830 --> 00:49:58,665
Privately he did
too, by the way.

897
00:49:59,666 --> 00:50:01,501
‐ She set the tone for
some of the activists

898
00:50:01,568 --> 00:50:02,803
inside our country.

899
00:50:02,869 --> 00:50:03,970
Gave them a signal.

900
00:50:04,037 --> 00:50:06,106
They heard this signal
and started active work

901
00:50:06,172 --> 00:50:09,175
in support of the
U. S. State Department.

902
00:50:09,242 --> 00:50:12,546
‐ I suspect that
Putin, like Stalin,

903
00:50:12,613 --> 00:50:16,116
read every one else
by his own measure.

904
00:50:17,551 --> 00:50:20,453
And being a cynical person,
understanding only power,

905
00:50:20,521 --> 00:50:24,090
he probably assumed that
we were equally cynical

906
00:50:24,157 --> 00:50:26,560
and our protestations
of support for democracy

907
00:50:26,627 --> 00:50:28,094
were meaningless fluff.

908
00:50:30,196 --> 00:50:33,466
So that he sees our
actions in Russia

909
00:50:33,534 --> 00:50:35,569
as designed to undermine him.

910
00:50:35,636 --> 00:50:38,238
And he looks at all the
democratic activists

911
00:50:38,304 --> 00:50:41,207
as somehow somebody
else's puppet.

912
00:50:41,274 --> 00:50:45,512
Hillary Clinton is doing this
or Condi Rice is doing this.

913
00:50:45,579 --> 00:50:48,615
‐ It's not that he
believes everything

914
00:50:48,682 --> 00:50:52,819
but there is a kind of a
grounding in his KGB training

915
00:50:52,886 --> 00:50:54,655
because, remember,
during the Cold War

916
00:50:54,721 --> 00:50:58,424
they would fund some
firebrand in some country

917
00:50:58,491 --> 00:51:02,128
to became allied with
them and we would go in

918
00:51:02,195 --> 00:51:04,831
and try to undercut that
person and visa versa.

919
00:51:04,898 --> 00:51:08,434
But a lot of it is just to
keep people in Russia in line.

920
00:51:08,501 --> 00:51:13,507
My experience with him was
difficult and challenging

921
00:51:14,374 --> 00:51:16,643
because I challenged him.

922
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:18,645
‐ It's better not
to argue with women.

923
00:51:18,712 --> 00:51:20,714
But Mrs. Clinton has
never been too graceful

924
00:51:20,781 --> 00:51:22,115
in her statements.

925
00:51:22,182 --> 00:51:25,151
When people push boundaries
too far it's not because

926
00:51:25,218 --> 00:51:27,621
they are strong but
because they are weak.

927
00:51:27,688 --> 00:51:30,924
But maybe weakness is not the
right quality for a woman.

928
00:51:30,991 --> 00:51:32,392
‐ In meetings that
I've had with him,

929
00:51:32,458 --> 00:51:36,730
he is in a very calculated
way trying to gain advantage,

930
00:51:36,797 --> 00:51:39,700
looking at you with
disdain and contempt.

931
00:51:39,766 --> 00:51:41,101
The bored kid in school.

932
00:51:41,167 --> 00:51:43,904
When the cameras are on he will
criticize the United States.

933
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:45,038
When the cameras are gone,

934
00:51:45,105 --> 00:51:47,674
he'll act like he's
willing to talk to you.

935
00:51:47,741 --> 00:51:48,575
He's into man spreading.

936
00:51:48,642 --> 00:51:50,443
You know what that is, right.

937
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,550
‐ Putin never really developed
a working relationship

938
00:51:56,617 --> 00:51:58,351
with secretary Clinton.

939
00:51:58,418 --> 00:52:03,323
He became very upset about
what she said in December, 2011

940
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:05,792
and was looking for revenge.

941
00:52:05,859 --> 00:52:08,629
‐ If you can use and capture
elite in specific ways

942
00:52:08,695 --> 00:52:09,796
you can accomplish your goals

943
00:52:09,863 --> 00:52:12,498
without needing to
get public support.

944
00:52:12,566 --> 00:52:14,300
The recruiting tool was money.

945
00:52:14,367 --> 00:52:17,237
‐ You see just so much
money flowing to Trump.

946
00:52:23,409 --> 00:52:25,946
It's hard to imagine
there's not more to it

947
00:52:26,012 --> 00:52:29,315
than just simple
generosity.

948
00:52:29,382 --> 00:52:33,654
‐ All his American banks
cut their lines of credit.

949
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,055
Stopped doing business with him

950
00:52:35,121 --> 00:52:40,426
and one bank steps into the
breach as his lender of choice.

951
00:52:41,427 --> 00:52:42,796
And that's Deutsche bank.

952
00:52:44,865 --> 00:52:47,300
‐ From the perspective
of most western bankers

953
00:52:47,367 --> 00:52:49,670
that was just seen as insane.

954
00:52:49,736 --> 00:52:50,871
‐ He's had a history

955
00:52:50,937 --> 00:52:53,406
of making misleading
statements to them.

956
00:52:53,473 --> 00:52:54,274
Threatening them.

957
00:52:54,340 --> 00:52:56,510
They call and he sues them.

958
00:52:56,577 --> 00:52:57,911
He fails to pay the loan.

959
00:52:57,978 --> 00:53:01,314
He publicly criticizes
Deutsche Bank about all this.

960
00:53:01,381 --> 00:53:06,252
But Deutsche bank sticks
with him loyally throughout.

961
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:10,023
Not only that they
also start making loans

962
00:53:10,090 --> 00:53:12,526
to his son‐in‐law,
Jared Kushner.

963
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:16,630
‐ Deutsche Bank has
been fined before

964
00:53:16,697 --> 00:53:19,399
for participating in
Russian money laundering.

965
00:53:21,001 --> 00:53:22,803
‐ The German bank
says it's willing to pay

966
00:53:22,869 --> 00:53:26,439
over 600 million dollars in
fines for its connections

967
00:53:26,507 --> 00:53:28,308
to alleged Russian
money laundering.

968
00:53:29,643 --> 00:53:31,344
‐ When the scandal
erupted that Deutsche Bank

969
00:53:31,411 --> 00:53:33,614
about these money
laundering operations,

970
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,383
the Deutsche bank CEO was fired.

971
00:53:37,450 --> 00:53:40,320
He became the CEO of
the bank of Cyprus.

972
00:53:40,386 --> 00:53:43,924
‐ One of the
financial institutions

973
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:46,727
through which they
launder money.

974
00:53:46,793 --> 00:53:50,564
‐ Who hired him to be
the CEO of the Bank of Cyprus?

975
00:53:50,631 --> 00:53:55,068
Wilbur Ross, tight
supporter of Donald Trump,

976
00:53:55,135 --> 00:53:57,838
now his Secretary of Commerce.

977
00:53:57,904 --> 00:54:01,742
‐ The practice of overpaying
significantly is something

978
00:54:01,808 --> 00:54:05,546
that falls into the
category of Russian methods.

979
00:54:05,612 --> 00:54:06,747
‐ The man known

980
00:54:06,813 --> 00:54:08,882
as the Russian potash
king, Rybolovlev,

981
00:54:08,949 --> 00:54:12,519
purchases a property
for more than twice

982
00:54:12,586 --> 00:54:14,621
what Trump had paid for it.

983
00:54:15,756 --> 00:54:17,457
‐ That's when our
country was going through

984
00:54:17,524 --> 00:54:20,326
a financial collapse
that largely was caused

985
00:54:20,393 --> 00:54:22,629
by the real estate market.

986
00:54:22,696 --> 00:54:26,900
Did he overpay because Mr. Trump
was such a great negotiator

987
00:54:26,967 --> 00:54:29,335
or was there something
else going on?

988
00:54:29,402 --> 00:54:30,771
‐ Never does anything
with the property.

989
00:54:30,837 --> 00:54:34,641
So the property transaction
appears to be nothing more

990
00:54:34,708 --> 00:54:38,444
than cover for infusing a
cool 100 million dollars

991
00:54:38,512 --> 00:54:41,014
into Trump's bank accounts.

992
00:54:41,081 --> 00:54:45,752
This same Rybolovlev is
also a principal owner

993
00:54:45,819 --> 00:54:48,655
with Wilbur Ross of
the bank of Cyprus.

994
00:54:49,823 --> 00:54:53,026
‐ In 2013 there was
a bust at Trump Tower

995
00:54:53,093 --> 00:54:55,461
of a massive gambling ring.

996
00:54:55,529 --> 00:54:58,632
It was run by a gun
named Taiwanchic.

997
00:54:58,699 --> 00:55:02,035
He has been tied to the Russia
crime boss Simeon Mogilevich.

998
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:06,740
29 people were indicted but
Taiwanchic fled to Russia.

999
00:55:09,976 --> 00:55:12,879
‐ Taiwanchic
appeared again that year,

1000
00:55:12,946 --> 00:55:15,749
oddly enough, at the
Miss Universe pageant

1001
00:55:15,816 --> 00:55:19,920
that Donald Trump was
doing with Aras Agalarov.

1002
00:55:19,986 --> 00:55:22,455
‐ Billionaire
oligarch who was known

1003
00:55:22,523 --> 00:55:24,390
actually as Putin's builder

1004
00:55:24,457 --> 00:55:27,794
because he had done massive
construction projects

1005
00:55:27,861 --> 00:55:31,665
for the Kremlin and
gotten a big award

1006
00:55:31,732 --> 00:55:34,000
personally delivered by Putin.

1007
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:40,106
‐ Donald Trump chose Moscow

1008
00:55:40,173 --> 00:55:42,609
as the place to
have Miss Universe.

1009
00:55:42,676 --> 00:55:44,911
I think it would be important
for us to understand

1010
00:55:44,978 --> 00:55:48,414
just who he met with
while he was on that trip.

1011
00:55:48,481 --> 00:55:51,051
Whether he talked
to Vladimir Putin.

1012
00:55:53,987 --> 00:55:55,856
‐ There was a luncheon with

1013
00:55:55,922 --> 00:55:59,526
a lot of Russian business
leaders in which Trump spoke

1014
00:55:59,593 --> 00:56:02,896
and the birthday party
for Aras Agalarov.

1015
00:56:03,864 --> 00:56:06,800
‐ He even
appears in the scion

1016
00:56:06,867 --> 00:56:09,870
of the Agalarov
family music video.

1017
00:56:09,936 --> 00:56:10,771
‐ You're fired.

1018
00:56:20,947 --> 00:56:21,948
‐ Compromat.

1019
00:56:22,015 --> 00:56:23,984
It's essentially
embarrassing information

1020
00:56:24,050 --> 00:56:26,653
that's going to put you
under somebody else's thumb.

1021
00:56:27,888 --> 00:56:30,223
‐ Use money, use sex,
use whatever they can

1022
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:31,725
to try to entrap people.

1023
00:56:31,792 --> 00:56:33,794
I mean, that's just a fact.

1024
00:56:33,860 --> 00:56:36,730
‐ They don't mind blowing
up their own bribery scheme

1025
00:56:36,797 --> 00:56:41,167
to blackmail an individual and
now they've got that person.

1026
00:56:41,234 --> 00:56:44,237
‐ There's purely rumors
that on his trips to Moscow

1027
00:56:44,304 --> 00:56:47,608
that Trump was involved
in various sex escapades

1028
00:56:47,674 --> 00:56:49,009
that may have compromised him.

1029
00:56:54,147 --> 00:56:56,883
‐ If I can offer you a
check for 10 billion dollars.

1030
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:58,151
‐ Billion.

1031
00:56:58,218 --> 00:56:59,553
‐ But the deal
is you can't have sex

1032
00:56:59,620 --> 00:57:01,988
for the next 10 years.
‐ Would that include my wife?

1033
00:57:23,644 --> 00:57:27,213
‐ Sergei Million appears in
connection with Trump's dealings

1034
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,618
in Russia and certainly in
connection with his hotel stays

1035
00:57:31,685 --> 00:57:34,187
and someone who would know an
awful lot about what went on

1036
00:57:34,254 --> 00:57:35,789
during those visits
with meetings

1037
00:57:35,856 --> 00:57:37,190
with prostitutes and so forth.

1038
00:57:37,257 --> 00:57:39,292
‐ You know, I was in Moscow
a couple of months ago.

1039
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:41,728
I own the Miss Universe pageant.

1040
00:57:41,795 --> 00:57:43,997
And they treated me so great.

1041
00:57:44,064 --> 00:57:45,198
Putin even sent me a present.

1042
00:57:45,265 --> 00:57:48,168
Beautiful present
with a beautiful note.

1043
00:57:48,234 --> 00:57:52,005
‐ When you look at Steele's
report information he gives,

1044
00:57:52,973 --> 00:57:56,977
one of those sources
could be Million.

1045
00:57:57,043 --> 00:57:59,613
We don't know that for sure
but the descriptions match.

1046
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,782
‐ He likes Russia because
there's money to be made there.

1047
00:58:01,848 --> 00:58:05,952
‐ He likes Russia because he
likes beautiful Russian ladies.

1048
00:58:06,019 --> 00:58:09,656
‐ But I hear that golden
showers was not the end of it.

1049
00:58:09,723 --> 00:58:12,258
There was much more
extreme sick stuff.

1050
00:58:12,325 --> 00:58:14,995
‐ He was only there
two days one night.

1051
00:58:15,061 --> 00:58:16,997
He was supposed
to be there longer

1052
00:58:17,063 --> 00:58:21,301
but Billy Graham's
95th birthday party

1053
00:58:21,367 --> 00:58:25,005
was in Asheville,
North Carolina.

1054
00:58:25,071 --> 00:58:27,040
Trump felt the need to go.

1055
00:58:27,107 --> 00:58:28,374
Why?

1056
00:58:28,441 --> 00:58:31,645
Because he's getting ready
to run for president.

1057
00:58:31,712 --> 00:58:35,048
♪♪ Happy birthday to you ♪♪

1058
00:58:38,819 --> 00:58:40,286
‐ To be honest, the
question was just asked

1059
00:58:40,353 --> 00:58:42,989
or was asked many times today
at the Miss Universe contest.

1060
00:58:43,056 --> 00:58:46,059
They said would you run, and
it's just too soon to say.

1061
00:58:46,126 --> 00:58:48,695
‐ Do you have a relationship
with Vladimir Putin,

1062
00:58:48,762 --> 00:58:52,899
a conversational relationship
or anything that you feel

1063
00:58:52,966 --> 00:58:56,269
you have sway or influence
over his government?

1064
00:58:56,336 --> 00:59:00,006
‐ I do have a relationship
and I can tell you

1065
00:59:00,073 --> 00:59:02,308
that he's very interested in
what we're doing here today.

1066
00:59:02,375 --> 00:59:03,409
He's probably very interested

1067
00:59:03,476 --> 00:59:04,811
in what you and I
are saying today

1068
00:59:04,878 --> 00:59:07,147
and I'm sure he's going to
be seeing it in some form.

1069
00:59:07,213 --> 00:59:08,782
But I do have a
relationship with him.

1070
00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:09,950
‐ About Russia.

1071
00:59:10,016 --> 00:59:12,085
You were asked yesterday
if you've ever spoken

1072
00:59:12,152 --> 00:59:15,922
to Vladimir Putin and you
said I don't want to say.

1073
00:59:15,989 --> 00:59:17,223
‐ Yeah, I have no
comment on that.

1074
00:59:17,290 --> 00:59:17,924
No comment.

1075
00:59:17,991 --> 00:59:19,092
I was in Russia‐‐

1076
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:20,293
‐ Well one of the things
people like about you

1077
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,696
is you answer any questions.
‐ Yeah, but.

1078
00:59:22,763 --> 00:59:24,130
Let's assume I did.

1079
00:59:24,197 --> 00:59:25,932
Perhaps it was personal or,
you know, I don't want to,

1080
00:59:25,999 --> 00:59:28,702
I don't want to
hurt his confidence.

1081
00:59:28,769 --> 00:59:31,137
He's done a very
brilliant job in terms

1082
00:59:31,204 --> 00:59:34,841
of what he represents and
who he's representing.

1083
00:59:38,078 --> 00:59:39,445
‐ Viktor Yanukovich
had been in talks

1084
00:59:39,513 --> 00:59:42,983
with the European Union about
an association agreement

1085
00:59:43,049 --> 00:59:46,953
but then after a visit to
Moscow and getting the message

1086
00:59:47,020 --> 00:59:50,256
that this was not going
to be seen favorably,

1087
00:59:50,323 --> 00:59:52,258
Yanukovich came back
and decided that

1088
00:59:52,325 --> 00:59:54,695
in fact he was not gonna
pursue this agreement.

1089
00:59:54,761 --> 00:59:57,030
So this square in downtown Kiev,

1090
00:59:57,097 --> 00:59:59,299
protestors went there and
began demanding that, in fact,

1091
00:59:59,365 --> 01:00:00,667
this agreement go into force,

1092
01:00:00,734 --> 01:00:03,670
instead of some alternative
agreement with Russia.

1093
01:00:06,072 --> 01:00:09,676
They protest not just
in favor of an agreement

1094
01:00:09,743 --> 01:00:10,877
with the European Union

1095
01:00:10,944 --> 01:00:13,446
but a protest against
Viktor Yanukovich

1096
01:00:13,514 --> 01:00:16,683
and the way he was running
things at the time.

1097
01:00:18,218 --> 01:00:20,186
‐ About a week later
the police went in

1098
01:00:20,253 --> 01:00:21,221
and broke up that camp.

1099
01:00:27,127 --> 01:00:30,230
In two hours shed more
blood than had been shed

1100
01:00:30,296 --> 01:00:34,134
during the entire Orange
Revolution back in 2004.

1101
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,368
‐ And at each turn,

1102
01:00:35,435 --> 01:00:38,138
Yanukovich became more
and more repressive,

1103
01:00:38,204 --> 01:00:39,740
more and more bloodthirsty.

1104
01:00:46,379 --> 01:00:48,181
‐ You had people
shooting into the crowd.

1105
01:00:48,248 --> 01:00:50,316
In some cases directly
shot to the head

1106
01:00:50,383 --> 01:00:53,219
where like snipers
were shooting at them.

1107
01:00:59,192 --> 01:01:02,328
Probably 100, you know,
odd people killed.

1108
01:01:10,036 --> 01:01:13,306
‐ He just infuriated and
enraged his entire country.

1109
01:01:25,485 --> 01:01:28,221
‐ Yanukovich defied
calls for his resignation.

1110
01:01:28,288 --> 01:01:32,258
‐ I am not going to leave
Ukraine or go anywhere.

1111
01:01:32,325 --> 01:01:34,928
‐ Yanukovich packed
up in a car and left.

1112
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:41,367
He fled the country and
turned up in Russia.

1113
01:01:43,469 --> 01:01:45,939
‐ And this is while Manafort
is still advising him.

1114
01:01:46,006 --> 01:01:48,942
‐ I don't think that Yanukovich
was the pro‐Putin person

1115
01:01:49,009 --> 01:01:51,411
that he's reputed to be
and if you look at what‐‐

1116
01:01:51,477 --> 01:01:52,546
‐ Well, he went off.

1117
01:01:52,613 --> 01:01:54,447
He ended up in Moscow.
‐ Well, yeah.

1118
01:01:54,515 --> 01:01:56,249
‐ The ousted
president is wanted

1119
01:01:56,316 --> 01:01:58,084
for mass murder and on the run.

1120
01:01:58,151 --> 01:01:59,485
‐ So you have the
Ukrainian parliament.

1121
01:01:59,553 --> 01:02:01,087
What do we do?

1122
01:02:01,154 --> 01:02:02,188
‐ Parliament voted

1123
01:02:02,255 --> 01:02:04,290
to free Yanukovych's
arch nemesis,

1124
01:02:04,357 --> 01:02:06,259
opposition leader
Yulia Tymoshenko.

1125
01:02:08,494 --> 01:02:11,264
‐ Today you have an open
road to build Ukraine

1126
01:02:11,331 --> 01:02:12,733
the way you want.

1127
01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:15,836
That is why you must stay here
until the person you trust

1128
01:02:15,902 --> 01:02:18,271
is elected in an honest way.

1129
01:02:18,338 --> 01:02:20,974
‐ My sense is at that point
the Russians panicked.

1130
01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:25,879
The Russians had lying
in a safe somewhere

1131
01:02:25,946 --> 01:02:29,349
the plan how you take Crimea
and they activated that plan.

1132
01:02:33,419 --> 01:02:35,956
Within a couple of
days you saw people

1133
01:02:36,022 --> 01:02:38,124
who were very clearly
professional soldiers.

1134
01:02:38,191 --> 01:02:40,260
They were wearing Russian
style combat fatigues

1135
01:02:40,326 --> 01:02:42,262
but they had no
identifying insignia.

1136
01:02:42,328 --> 01:02:45,298
The Ukrainians referred to these
people as little green men.

1137
01:02:45,365 --> 01:02:48,201
‐ Which were in
fact special operations forces

1138
01:02:48,268 --> 01:02:50,036
and intelligence operatives.

1139
01:02:51,237 --> 01:02:53,373
‐ We thought this
could be the beginning

1140
01:02:53,439 --> 01:02:56,409
of an outright full scale
invasion of the country.

1141
01:02:58,579 --> 01:03:01,481
That's when the separatists
shot down the Malaysian airliner

1142
01:03:01,548 --> 01:03:04,384
and killed over 100
Dutch passengers.

1143
01:03:05,919 --> 01:03:08,288
‐ Separatists
initially boasted on Twitter

1144
01:03:08,354 --> 01:03:10,490
that they had taken it down.

1145
01:03:10,557 --> 01:03:14,094
‐ The unforgivable sin
was Putin lying about it.

1146
01:03:15,495 --> 01:03:19,432
Suggesting Ukrainians shot
it down or CIA shot it down.

1147
01:03:19,499 --> 01:03:22,202
Throwing out a bunch of
chafe which was an insult.

1148
01:03:23,436 --> 01:03:26,239
The European Union
had had enough.

1149
01:03:26,306 --> 01:03:29,175
They joined us with
strong sectoral sanctions.

1150
01:03:29,242 --> 01:03:30,977
And that surprised the Russians

1151
01:03:31,044 --> 01:03:33,246
and it hit the
Russian economy hard

1152
01:03:33,313 --> 01:03:36,449
right at the time oil
prices started to tank.

1153
01:03:36,517 --> 01:03:38,218
So they had a double whammy.

1154
01:03:38,284 --> 01:03:39,452
‐ How do you respond

1155
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,289
to the greatest geo
strategic catastrophe

1156
01:03:43,356 --> 01:03:44,525
of the 20th century,

1157
01:03:44,591 --> 01:03:47,060
which was the collapse
of the Soviet Union?

1158
01:03:47,127 --> 01:03:50,396
You try to preempt the
collapse of the western system

1159
01:03:50,463 --> 01:03:52,098
in the 21st century.

1160
01:03:53,667 --> 01:03:56,937
If you can't destroy these
structures militarily,

1161
01:03:57,003 --> 01:03:59,372
you will destroy
them from within.

1162
01:03:59,439 --> 01:04:02,509
‐ By actually creating
fissures and exploiting them

1163
01:04:02,576 --> 01:04:05,345
such that it's the
electorate is so divided

1164
01:04:05,411 --> 01:04:08,414
that you don't trust
the government anymore.

1165
01:04:08,481 --> 01:04:10,116
‐ The foundations of geopolitics

1166
01:04:10,183 --> 01:04:12,218
is a guiding
principle for Russia.

1167
01:04:12,285 --> 01:04:14,320
It's something that
their militaries

1168
01:04:14,387 --> 01:04:16,690
and intelligence
services have relied upon

1169
01:04:16,757 --> 01:04:18,892
and applied throughout
their campaigns.

1170
01:04:30,737 --> 01:04:34,207
‐ Russia has helped unite an
alternative right movement.

1171
01:04:34,274 --> 01:04:36,476
‐ You have certain
voices in the media.

1172
01:04:36,543 --> 01:04:39,479
Info Wars, for example,
Breitbart to capitalize

1173
01:04:39,546 --> 01:04:41,414
on these divisions.

1174
01:04:41,481 --> 01:04:45,451
And then further encourage them
for their own personal gain.

1175
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:47,721
‐ I'd like to punch him
in the face, I'll tell ya.

1176
01:04:47,788 --> 01:04:50,390
Knock the crap out of
him, would you, seriously.

1177
01:04:51,525 --> 01:04:53,359
That guy looked like
an NFL football player.

1178
01:04:53,426 --> 01:04:54,427
Now, they took him out.

1179
01:04:54,494 --> 01:04:55,295
And I'll tell you what.

1180
01:04:55,361 --> 01:04:57,531
It was really amazing to watch.

1181
01:04:57,598 --> 01:04:58,231
Bye.

1182
01:04:58,298 --> 01:04:59,633
Go home to mommy.

1183
01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:02,002
But if we get a little bit
rough in taking them out,

1184
01:05:02,068 --> 01:05:03,469
oh, we're terrible people.

1185
01:05:03,537 --> 01:05:06,239
It's one of the many reasons
our country's going to hell.

1186
01:05:06,306 --> 01:05:08,074
‐ Certainly this is
all in the interest

1187
01:05:08,141 --> 01:05:10,511
of at least one country.

1188
01:05:10,577 --> 01:05:15,015
‐ To see this otherwise
rather brazen candidate

1189
01:05:16,583 --> 01:05:21,588
turn into such a sycophant
when the name of Putin

1190
01:05:22,556 --> 01:05:25,626
ever came up rang a
very discordant bell.

1191
01:05:25,692 --> 01:05:28,094
‐ Putin has done an amazing job

1192
01:05:28,161 --> 01:05:31,264
of showing leadership whether
it's a noble or cause or not.

1193
01:05:31,331 --> 01:05:32,132
Let's not discuss that.

1194
01:05:32,198 --> 01:05:33,499
He is now the world leader.

1195
01:05:33,567 --> 01:05:34,735
I respect Putin.

1196
01:05:34,801 --> 01:05:36,502
He's a strong leader,
I can tell you that.

1197
01:05:36,570 --> 01:05:37,337
Unlike what we have.

1198
01:05:37,403 --> 01:05:38,705
We have a pathetic leader.

1199
01:05:38,772 --> 01:05:42,108
I think in terms of
leadership, he's getting an A.

1200
01:05:42,175 --> 01:05:44,177
‐ As far as an individual

1201
01:05:44,244 --> 01:05:47,413
who poses a threat to
the world literally.

1202
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,517
A person who has
no moral standards

1203
01:05:50,584 --> 01:05:52,485
that I've been able to detect.

1204
01:05:52,553 --> 01:05:54,320
F is not low enough.

1205
01:05:54,387 --> 01:05:56,456
‐ He was certainly very
vocal about Russia,

1206
01:05:56,523 --> 01:05:57,724
wanting a better relationship.

1207
01:05:57,791 --> 01:05:59,660
‐ Wouldn't it be a
wonderful thing, frankly,

1208
01:05:59,726 --> 01:06:02,162
if we actually got
along with Russia?

1209
01:06:02,228 --> 01:06:04,030
‐ Who's against getting
along with people

1210
01:06:04,097 --> 01:06:05,532
but that's not a policy.

1211
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:08,535
‐ More noticeable perhaps is
the absence of any criticism.

1212
01:06:08,602 --> 01:06:10,436
‐ The fact is that, you know,

1213
01:06:10,503 --> 01:06:12,038
he hasn't been
convicted of anything.

1214
01:06:12,105 --> 01:06:13,473
‐ Some of the
things he was saying

1215
01:06:13,540 --> 01:06:17,578
was actually talking points
that sounded very similar

1216
01:06:17,644 --> 01:06:20,046
to what the Russian
media will put out there.

1217
01:06:20,113 --> 01:06:20,914
‐ The
fact that Ukraine

1218
01:06:20,981 --> 01:06:22,415
has not published radar data

1219
01:06:22,482 --> 01:06:24,518
leads us to the
conjecture the missiles,

1220
01:06:24,585 --> 01:06:26,653
if it was a buk, was
launched from territory

1221
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,222
under the control of
the Ukrainian military.

1222
01:06:29,289 --> 01:06:31,658
‐ If it was a Russian made
buk missile that took down

1223
01:06:31,725 --> 01:06:35,428
that plane would you hold
Putin and Russia accountable?

1224
01:06:35,495 --> 01:06:36,663
Would there be sanctions?

1225
01:06:36,730 --> 01:06:38,098
‐ Well, you know, they
say it wasn't them.

1226
01:06:38,164 --> 01:06:39,800
It may have been their weapon
but they didn't use it.

1227
01:06:39,866 --> 01:06:41,201
They didn't fire it.

1228
01:06:41,267 --> 01:06:43,436
They even said the other
side fired it to blame them.

1229
01:06:43,503 --> 01:06:45,672
‐ He never provided his
original birth certificate.

1230
01:06:45,739 --> 01:06:50,243
What he provided was a
photoshopped computer image

1231
01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:54,080
of something that was
issued only in 2007.

1232
01:06:54,147 --> 01:06:57,651
‐ A certificate of live birth
is not even signed by anybody.

1233
01:06:57,718 --> 01:06:58,484
I saw his.

1234
01:06:58,552 --> 01:06:59,720
I read it very carefully.

1235
01:06:59,786 --> 01:07:01,588
‐ They're voting for
peace on planet earth

1236
01:07:01,655 --> 01:07:02,756
if they vote for Trump.

1237
01:07:02,823 --> 01:07:06,326
But if they vote for
Hillary, it's war.

1238
01:07:06,392 --> 01:07:10,263
‐ Now Hillary Clinton wants to
confront nuclear‐armed Russia

1239
01:07:10,330 --> 01:07:13,233
that could very well lead
us into World War III.

1240
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,336
‐ Mr. McCain was taken
prisoner in Vietnam

1241
01:07:16,402 --> 01:07:19,506
and was put not just
in jail but in a pit.

1242
01:07:19,573 --> 01:07:21,374
He sat there for several years.

1243
01:07:21,441 --> 01:07:23,610
Anyone would go nuts after that.

1244
01:07:23,677 --> 01:07:25,846
‐ He's a war hero
'cause he was captured.

1245
01:07:25,912 --> 01:07:27,614
I like people that
weren't captured, okay,

1246
01:07:27,681 --> 01:07:28,749
I hate to tell you.

1247
01:07:30,183 --> 01:07:32,452
‐ Donald Trump delivered a
major foreign policy speech

1248
01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:35,622
at the Mayflower Hotel in
Washington on April 27.

1249
01:07:35,689 --> 01:07:37,357
The center for the
national interest,

1250
01:07:37,423 --> 01:07:38,559
this American Think Tank,

1251
01:07:38,625 --> 01:07:41,427
which has very close
ties to the Kremlin.

1252
01:07:41,494 --> 01:07:44,565
This Think Tank
played a leading role

1253
01:07:44,631 --> 01:07:47,701
in drafting Donald
Trump's speech

1254
01:07:47,768 --> 01:07:51,638
and that speech was full
of Russian propaganda.

1255
01:07:51,705 --> 01:07:54,608
‐ We can upgrade
NATO's outdated mission

1256
01:07:54,675 --> 01:07:57,711
and structure grown
out of the Cold War.

1257
01:07:57,778 --> 01:08:01,582
I am skeptical of
international unions.

1258
01:08:01,648 --> 01:08:03,784
The U. S. must be prepared

1259
01:08:03,850 --> 01:08:07,554
to let these countries
defend themselves.

1260
01:08:07,621 --> 01:08:11,191
Some say the Russians
won't be reasonable.

1261
01:08:11,257 --> 01:08:12,826
I intend to find out.

1262
01:08:15,796 --> 01:08:18,932
‐ When Paul Manafort became
the actual head of the campaign

1263
01:08:18,999 --> 01:08:20,233
all of a sudden I
had a pop up window

1264
01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:23,236
come on my computer
saying that Yahoo believed

1265
01:08:23,303 --> 01:08:26,372
that I was part of an attempt
of state sponsored actors.

1266
01:08:27,307 --> 01:08:29,510
So I was being targeted.

1267
01:08:29,576 --> 01:08:31,177
That was the first time.

1268
01:08:32,679 --> 01:08:36,349
‐ There was a Russian
campaign to interfere

1269
01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:38,585
in American elections
through hacking.

1270
01:08:38,652 --> 01:08:40,854
That information
appeared in the dossier

1271
01:08:40,921 --> 01:08:44,424
before it was publicly reported
anywhere else, anywhere.

1272
01:08:44,490 --> 01:08:45,559
‐ You saw active measures

1273
01:08:45,626 --> 01:08:48,595
in elections across
eastern Europe.

1274
01:08:48,662 --> 01:08:50,664
No one really thought
that that would happen

1275
01:08:50,731 --> 01:08:53,534
in the U. S. base until it did.

1276
01:08:58,939 --> 01:09:03,644
‐ I was surprised as everyone
was but looking back on it

1277
01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:05,946
with benefit of
hindsight, obviously,

1278
01:09:06,012 --> 01:09:07,548
we should have probably known

1279
01:09:07,614 --> 01:09:10,817
that something like that
was going to happen.

1280
01:09:10,884 --> 01:09:13,486
‐ Russia is 1.6% of
the world economy.

1281
01:09:16,623 --> 01:09:20,927
They're so small but they
have, they're so centralized.

1282
01:09:24,531 --> 01:09:26,700
And when state concentrates
these resources

1283
01:09:26,767 --> 01:09:30,571
on wanting something
then it works.

1284
01:09:30,637 --> 01:09:33,173
‐ Russia did a wide
range of hacks.

1285
01:09:34,875 --> 01:09:38,444
Started I would guess around
August, September of 2015,

1286
01:09:38,512 --> 01:09:39,813
extended all the way
through the spring

1287
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,583
and into the summer of 2016.

1288
01:09:42,649 --> 01:09:45,619
We're talking about thousands
of Americans that were hit.

1289
01:09:45,686 --> 01:09:48,589
They were going after anybody
and everybody they could.

1290
01:09:48,655 --> 01:09:51,725
Their targets include media
personalities, politicians,

1291
01:09:51,792 --> 01:09:53,694
government officials,
current and former.

1292
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,797
Anybody that they could gain
what is ultimately information

1293
01:09:56,863 --> 01:09:59,465
or compromat that
they could use.

1294
01:09:59,533 --> 01:10:00,734
That is the nuclear fuel

1295
01:10:00,801 --> 01:10:03,269
that powers the influence
operation in '16.

1296
01:10:03,336 --> 01:10:06,372
‐ A couple of my
co‐workers who had access

1297
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,042
to my personal email used
to manage the volume.

1298
01:10:09,109 --> 01:10:12,345
One of them saw a
phishing attempt

1299
01:10:12,412 --> 01:10:16,517
from a Google source through
some mistake of communication.

1300
01:10:16,583 --> 01:10:20,687
One of our cyber security
experts in the campaign suggested

1301
01:10:20,754 --> 01:10:23,323
to my assistant that they
change their email account.

1302
01:10:23,389 --> 01:10:27,728
So she clicked on the link
and my private email cache

1303
01:10:27,794 --> 01:10:30,330
was, you know, was exfiltrated.

1304
01:10:33,734 --> 01:10:37,303
‐ People were seeing this
dangerous troubling activity

1305
01:10:37,370 --> 01:10:39,706
coming from the Russians
that was actually

1306
01:10:39,773 --> 01:10:42,442
in our electoral system.

1307
01:10:42,509 --> 01:10:43,677
‐ Government officials
learned that they're

1308
01:10:43,744 --> 01:10:48,882
actually going into
state voter databases.

1309
01:10:49,883 --> 01:10:51,785
‐ There may have been
26 different states

1310
01:10:51,852 --> 01:10:54,054
where there were efforts
made to penetrate.

1311
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,456
That's disturbing.

1312
01:10:56,523 --> 01:11:00,594
The key to flip an election
without leaving a trace

1313
01:11:00,661 --> 01:11:02,796
is the voter rolls.

1314
01:11:02,863 --> 01:11:06,933
‐ It would only take
a small digital switch

1315
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,835
to make that happen.

1316
01:11:08,902 --> 01:11:13,574
This really spooked
officials in the White House

1317
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,579
and that's the moment I
think that the enormity

1318
01:11:18,645 --> 01:11:21,782
of the Russian
influence campaign

1319
01:11:21,848 --> 01:11:24,618
really started to hit home.

1320
01:11:24,685 --> 01:11:26,953
‐ The fact that
there was that attack

1321
01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:29,956
on the fundamental, the
absolute fundamental

1322
01:11:30,023 --> 01:11:34,460
free and fair election should
have alarmed all of us.

1323
01:11:34,528 --> 01:11:36,730
‐ The Russians didn't
care if we found out.

1324
01:11:36,797 --> 01:11:37,898
This is pretty new.

1325
01:11:37,964 --> 01:11:39,399
‐ They stole the data.

1326
01:11:39,465 --> 01:11:40,266
Let's be clear about it.

1327
01:11:40,333 --> 01:11:41,367
I don't like this word hacking.

1328
01:11:41,434 --> 01:11:42,903
This is theft.

1329
01:11:42,969 --> 01:11:45,806
If the Russians walked into my
house and took something out,

1330
01:11:45,872 --> 01:11:47,841
this is exactly the same thing.

1331
01:11:47,908 --> 01:11:50,476
And I think the problem that a
lot of Americans have with it

1332
01:11:50,544 --> 01:11:53,413
is they don't see it, they
don't think of it that way.

1333
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,782
‐ The goal was
plausible deniability.

1334
01:11:55,849 --> 01:11:58,619
And you hear that even in
Vladimir Putin's statements.

1335
01:11:58,685 --> 01:11:59,753
‐ If they are patriotic,

1336
01:11:59,820 --> 01:12:01,988
they contribute in a
way they think is right.

1337
01:12:02,055 --> 01:12:05,692
To fight against those who
say bad things about Russia.

1338
01:12:05,759 --> 01:12:07,661
‐ If there were people
in the Trump Campaign

1339
01:12:07,728 --> 01:12:08,895
who colluded in any of that,

1340
01:12:08,962 --> 01:12:11,732
those people are at
serious criminal risk

1341
01:12:11,798 --> 01:12:16,169
because there were serious
crimes people committed in 2016

1342
01:12:16,236 --> 01:12:18,839
to influence the U. S. elections.

1343
01:12:18,905 --> 01:12:20,173
‐ Once it looked like Trump

1344
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,943
was gonna be the clear nominee,
the Agalarovs resurfaced

1345
01:12:23,009 --> 01:12:25,746
and they said we are
obviously supportive

1346
01:12:25,812 --> 01:12:27,380
of the Trump Campaign
but more importantly,

1347
01:12:27,447 --> 01:12:29,883
we are doing so with the
blessing of the Russian government

1348
01:12:29,950 --> 01:12:32,018
and with the Russian
government involved.

1349
01:12:35,021 --> 01:12:37,924
‐ And they promised there
would be the delivery

1350
01:12:37,991 --> 01:12:41,628
of information that would damage
Hillary Clinton's campaign.

1351
01:12:42,495 --> 01:12:43,564
‐ This is information

1352
01:12:43,630 --> 01:12:45,131
the Russian government
has collected.

1353
01:12:48,969 --> 01:12:53,073
‐ Donald Trump, Jr. emailed
back, great, I love it.

1354
01:12:54,741 --> 01:12:57,110
Here we see what appears to
be evidence of collusion.

1355
01:12:58,845 --> 01:13:02,616
‐ Donald Trump,
Jr. forwarded the emails

1356
01:13:02,683 --> 01:13:04,985
to Paul Manafort, then
the campaign manager,

1357
01:13:05,051 --> 01:13:07,487
and Jared Kushner.

1358
01:13:07,554 --> 01:13:10,090
They both sat in on the meeting.

1359
01:13:11,224 --> 01:13:13,794
‐ Conspiracies are very
easy to enter into.

1360
01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:16,930
If indeed there was
just a tacit agreement

1361
01:13:16,997 --> 01:13:20,066
furthering that conspiracy,
boy, they're in.

1362
01:13:21,001 --> 01:13:23,069
And they're on the
wrong side of the law.

1363
01:13:25,972 --> 01:13:30,977
‐ Trump being pressed
early on in the campion

1364
01:13:32,078 --> 01:13:34,014
for a list of his
foreign policy advisors.

1365
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:39,085
The second name he mentions
is Carter Page, PhD.

1366
01:13:40,253 --> 01:13:41,855
‐ No one had heard
of Carter Page.

1367
01:13:41,922 --> 01:13:44,257
He had worked for
Merrill Lynch in Moscow.

1368
01:13:44,324 --> 01:13:47,894
‐ He had been
an investor in Gazprom

1369
01:13:47,961 --> 01:13:52,766
and a quite vocal defender
of the Putin government.

1370
01:13:52,833 --> 01:13:55,569
A critic of sanctions.

1371
01:13:55,636 --> 01:13:58,004
‐ Carter Page traveled
over to Moscow

1372
01:13:58,071 --> 01:14:00,006
with permission of
the Trump campaign

1373
01:14:00,073 --> 01:14:02,075
as a senior advisor
to Donald Trump.

1374
01:14:02,142 --> 01:14:05,178
‐ Washington and
other western capitals

1375
01:14:05,245 --> 01:14:07,848
have impeded potential progress

1376
01:14:07,914 --> 01:14:11,952
through their often
hypocritical focus on ideas

1377
01:14:12,018 --> 01:14:15,055
such as democratization,
inequality,

1378
01:14:15,121 --> 01:14:16,890
corruption, and regime change.

1379
01:14:16,957 --> 01:14:19,726
‐ The Steele Dossier
alleges that Carter Page

1380
01:14:19,793 --> 01:14:22,763
met with Igor Sechin
who is head of Rozneft,

1381
01:14:22,829 --> 01:14:25,165
the enormous
Russian oil company.

1382
01:14:27,033 --> 01:14:30,203
Sechin happens to be very,
very close to Vladimir Putin.

1383
01:14:30,270 --> 01:14:31,838
‐ Sechin was
his closest friend

1384
01:14:31,905 --> 01:14:33,173
in the intelligence services.

1385
01:14:34,340 --> 01:14:36,009
‐ They came up with a scheme

1386
01:14:36,076 --> 01:14:39,045
by which sanctions would
be lifted on Russia.

1387
01:14:40,246 --> 01:14:43,884
In return, when parts of
Rozneft were sold off,

1388
01:14:43,950 --> 01:14:47,053
a huge portion of it, I
believe was 19% of it,

1389
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,154
would be diverted.

1390
01:14:50,123 --> 01:14:51,592
‐ This could have
been another way

1391
01:14:51,658 --> 01:14:55,161
to funnel enormous
cash resources

1392
01:14:55,228 --> 01:14:57,130
to Donald Trump or his family.

1393
01:14:59,866 --> 01:15:03,036
America's European allies
were picking up things

1394
01:15:03,103 --> 01:15:06,940
involving interaction between
the figures associated

1395
01:15:07,007 --> 01:15:11,144
with the Trump Campaign and
Russian agents of influence

1396
01:15:11,211 --> 01:15:13,246
that they were very
disturbed about.

1397
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,030
‐ When the administration asked
for a bipartisan statement

1398
01:15:30,096 --> 01:15:31,431
saying that Russians were active

1399
01:15:31,497 --> 01:15:33,734
and they were trying to
interfere with the election

1400
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,869
they were blocked by
Republican leadership.

1401
01:15:35,936 --> 01:15:38,672
‐ When I was working in the
House of Representatives,

1402
01:15:38,739 --> 01:15:41,141
especially as the Policy Director
for the House Republicans,

1403
01:15:41,207 --> 01:15:43,677
I was part of many discussions.

1404
01:15:43,744 --> 01:15:46,046
One of them was on June 15.

1405
01:15:46,112 --> 01:15:48,749
One of the leaders
speculated that Trump

1406
01:15:48,815 --> 01:15:51,217
had a compromising
relationship with Putin,

1407
01:15:54,187 --> 01:15:56,322
a very serious
allegation to make

1408
01:15:56,389 --> 01:15:59,225
but it was one that
everyone was thinking.

1409
01:16:04,364 --> 01:16:07,033
The leaders were afraid to
stand up to Donald Trump

1410
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:12,105
for fear of being attacked
by his Russian troll army.

1411
01:16:29,089 --> 01:16:31,124
‐ By the
time of the convention,

1412
01:16:31,191 --> 01:16:32,325
it was beginning to look

1413
01:16:32,392 --> 01:16:36,797
like there was a really
serious Russian effort.

1414
01:16:44,204 --> 01:16:45,739
‐ She is above the law.

1415
01:16:45,806 --> 01:16:47,140
‐ Michael
Flynn had become

1416
01:16:47,207 --> 01:16:51,311
a top national security
advisor to Trump.

1417
01:16:51,377 --> 01:16:52,212
‐ Lock her up.

1418
01:16:55,181 --> 01:16:56,149
‐ What concerns me again

1419
01:16:56,216 --> 01:16:57,383
from a counter
intelligence perspective

1420
01:16:57,450 --> 01:16:58,785
is the pattern that
Flynn has established.

1421
01:16:58,852 --> 01:17:01,888
Flynn goes to Moscow and
sits next to Vladimir Putin

1422
01:17:01,955 --> 01:17:04,691
in a lavish RT s
ponsored event.

1423
01:17:04,758 --> 01:17:05,926
Just like in the United States,

1424
01:17:05,992 --> 01:17:07,160
you don't get to sit
next to the president

1425
01:17:07,227 --> 01:17:08,995
of the United States
without any planning.

1426
01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:12,298
He takes money from
the Russians, from RT,

1427
01:17:12,365 --> 01:17:15,068
which is nothing more than a
propaganda arm of the Kremlin.

1428
01:17:15,135 --> 01:17:16,336
Then says he didn't
take any money.

1429
01:17:16,402 --> 01:17:19,005
‐ Were you
paid for that amount?

1430
01:17:19,072 --> 01:17:22,709
‐ You have to ask my, the
folks that went over there to‐‐

1431
01:17:22,776 --> 01:17:23,844
‐ I'm asking you.

1432
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:25,011
You'd know if you were paid.

1433
01:17:25,078 --> 01:17:26,446
‐ I didn't take any
money from Russia

1434
01:17:26,513 --> 01:17:28,048
if that's what you're asking me.

1435
01:17:28,114 --> 01:17:29,149
‐ Well then who paid you?

1436
01:17:29,215 --> 01:17:31,017
‐ My Speaker's Bureau.

1437
01:17:31,084 --> 01:17:33,419
‐ The Speakers Bureau is
merely the pass through

1438
01:17:33,486 --> 01:17:37,924
for the organization that's
paying for the speech.

1439
01:17:37,991 --> 01:17:40,326
Flynn had given the same answer

1440
01:17:40,393 --> 01:17:43,229
when he was trying to get
his security clearance.

1441
01:17:46,066 --> 01:17:48,268
‐ At that convention, the
Republican party did something

1442
01:17:48,334 --> 01:17:50,937
that they almost have
never done before

1443
01:17:51,004 --> 01:17:53,239
which was take out
of their platform,

1444
01:17:53,306 --> 01:17:55,842
language that was
standing up for Ukraine

1445
01:17:55,909 --> 01:17:57,944
and standing against Russia.

1446
01:17:58,011 --> 01:17:59,746
‐ I was confident
that was gonna be

1447
01:17:59,813 --> 01:18:01,281
a part of our party platform.

1448
01:18:01,347 --> 01:18:02,516
It was before.

1449
01:18:02,583 --> 01:18:06,152
All of a sudden
somewhere it disappeared.

1450
01:18:06,219 --> 01:18:08,421
‐ J. D. Gordon, his
account is that it was

1451
01:18:08,488 --> 01:18:10,891
at the request of
the Trump Campaign.

1452
01:18:10,957 --> 01:18:15,495
‐ And I think that's part
of this whole scandal

1453
01:18:15,562 --> 01:18:17,531
that needs to be resolved.

1454
01:18:17,598 --> 01:18:21,367
Why would the
Republican party remove

1455
01:18:21,434 --> 01:18:26,106
a provision that would help
people who had been invaded

1456
01:18:26,172 --> 01:18:28,975
and slaughtered
defend themselves?

1457
01:18:29,042 --> 01:18:29,876
Interesting.

1458
01:18:44,090 --> 01:18:46,159
‐ When we went into
the convention,

1459
01:18:46,226 --> 01:18:49,095
we had to contend with
that first drop of emails.

1460
01:18:49,162 --> 01:18:51,798
‐ Just that the DNC employee‐‐
‐ It's Russia.

1461
01:18:51,865 --> 01:18:52,966
Adverse.

1462
01:18:53,033 --> 01:18:54,067
They were in
communication or in touch

1463
01:18:54,134 --> 01:18:57,403
with Julian Assange
at Wikileaks.

1464
01:18:57,470 --> 01:18:59,573
‐ And then they published
that data in a way

1465
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,143
to help Trump and
hurt Hillary Clinton.

1466
01:19:03,209 --> 01:19:05,145
‐ When Wikileaks was
originally founded

1467
01:19:05,211 --> 01:19:09,115
I don't think it had the
intention of influencing

1468
01:19:09,182 --> 01:19:13,053
the 2016 American election
but was it the goal

1469
01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:16,356
after Assange announced that
he wanted to harm Hillary.

1470
01:19:16,422 --> 01:19:17,257
You bet.

1471
01:19:18,258 --> 01:19:19,425
I mean, he said so.

1472
01:19:20,827 --> 01:19:22,863
From that standpoint, it
was a match made in heaven.

1473
01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:28,201
‐ They were actively
in the systems of Democratic

1474
01:19:28,268 --> 01:19:31,137
and as we now know
Republicans as well.

1475
01:19:31,204 --> 01:19:33,239
‐ We'll publish the
embarrassing material

1476
01:19:33,306 --> 01:19:35,542
from the hack into the DNC.

1477
01:19:35,609 --> 01:19:39,345
We won't publish the
embarrassing material in the RNC.

1478
01:19:39,412 --> 01:19:41,114
‐ There were more
damaging ones on Manafort

1479
01:19:41,181 --> 01:19:41,982
that they could have dropped.

1480
01:19:42,048 --> 01:19:43,449
They didn't.

1481
01:19:43,517 --> 01:19:46,620
It really exposed a lot of
personal contact information.

1482
01:19:46,687 --> 01:19:49,856
So many staff were getting
harassment calls for weeks.

1483
01:19:49,923 --> 01:19:53,093
‐ As we learned more
first about the DNC,

1484
01:19:53,159 --> 01:19:57,564
he basically invited them to
try to, you know, hack into me.

1485
01:19:57,631 --> 01:20:00,967
‐ He blurts things
out that sound to me

1486
01:20:01,034 --> 01:20:05,338
as a prosecutor almost
like an effort to confess.

1487
01:20:05,405 --> 01:20:08,474
‐ Russia, if you're
listening, I hope you're able

1488
01:20:08,542 --> 01:20:13,547
to find the 30,000
emails that are missing.

1489
01:20:14,948 --> 01:20:19,252
‐ If you were in fact
conspiring with Russia

1490
01:20:20,420 --> 01:20:22,889
and encouraging them
to help your campaign

1491
01:20:22,956 --> 01:20:25,559
and signaling them as to
what you wanted them to do...

1492
01:20:25,626 --> 01:20:27,260
‐ I think you will probably

1493
01:20:27,327 --> 01:20:30,063
be rewarded mightily
by our press.

1494
01:20:32,298 --> 01:20:36,236
‐ There's a pretty good
suggestion right there

1495
01:20:36,302 --> 01:20:38,539
but in this case made in
plain view in open daylight

1496
01:20:38,605 --> 01:20:41,307
at high noon, it's a little odd.

1497
01:20:46,112 --> 01:20:47,313
‐ Campaign was over.

1498
01:20:47,380 --> 01:20:48,448
Bernie had lost.

1499
01:20:48,515 --> 01:20:51,317
I was assisting in helping with

1500
01:20:51,384 --> 01:20:54,354
a number of Facebook
pages here in California.

1501
01:20:54,420 --> 01:20:57,924
I started to see strange
people appearing.

1502
01:20:57,991 --> 01:21:02,295
Their posts were coming from
American sounding websites

1503
01:21:02,362 --> 01:21:05,999
but when I peeled
away the layers,

1504
01:21:06,066 --> 01:21:08,334
eastern Europe became
a common theme.

1505
01:21:09,502 --> 01:21:12,105
They were propaganda pieces.

1506
01:21:12,172 --> 01:21:14,074
Not a single one of them true.

1507
01:21:14,140 --> 01:21:17,043
All viciously anti‐Hillary.

1508
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:20,046
This isn't just
one Sanders page.

1509
01:21:20,113 --> 01:21:22,448
It's Latinos for
Sanders, Pennsylvania,

1510
01:21:22,516 --> 01:21:24,450
Wisconsin, Michigan for Sanders.

1511
01:21:24,518 --> 01:21:25,919
It kept on going.

1512
01:21:25,986 --> 01:21:30,056
‐ While we were focusing on
the positive of social media

1513
01:21:30,123 --> 01:21:33,960
and information technology,
Russia was looking at how

1514
01:21:34,027 --> 01:21:35,161
to use that as an instrument

1515
01:21:35,228 --> 01:21:38,398
and they have been
incredibly effective.

1516
01:21:38,464 --> 01:21:41,467
‐ Cyber with social media,
with things like RT.

1517
01:21:41,535 --> 01:21:43,436
They can reach out to
western publics in a way

1518
01:21:43,503 --> 01:21:46,540
that they couldn't
do 35, 40 years ago.

1519
01:21:46,607 --> 01:21:49,109
Some of their predecessors
would be really envious

1520
01:21:49,175 --> 01:21:50,577
of the techniques
that they have now.

1521
01:21:50,644 --> 01:21:53,580
‐ How the Russian state does
influence operations online

1522
01:21:53,647 --> 01:21:54,715
is pretty complex.

1523
01:21:54,781 --> 01:21:57,450
On the one hand you have
real people, trolls.

1524
01:21:57,518 --> 01:22:00,721
A bigger part is actually
digital disinformation.

1525
01:22:00,787 --> 01:22:05,425
Making user accounts
that are algorithms.

1526
01:22:05,491 --> 01:22:09,596
This is the evolution of
artificial intelligence online.

1527
01:22:09,663 --> 01:22:12,365
‐ Russians figured out
how you game Google.

1528
01:22:12,432 --> 01:22:15,035
If you have enough
bots to drive it

1529
01:22:15,101 --> 01:22:17,337
to the top of the
Google suggestion list.

1530
01:22:17,403 --> 01:22:18,471
‐ Any wedge that's there,

1531
01:22:18,539 --> 01:22:19,806
they're gonna test
that audience out.

1532
01:22:19,873 --> 01:22:22,509
And when they find success
then they exploit it.

1533
01:22:22,576 --> 01:22:24,511
They double down on it.

1534
01:22:24,578 --> 01:22:25,612
You might see them show up

1535
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:27,748
around Black Lives
Matter protests.

1536
01:22:27,814 --> 01:22:30,150
And in the counter
protest movement.

1537
01:22:30,216 --> 01:22:32,385
Any anti‐government or
white supremacist group.

1538
01:22:32,452 --> 01:22:34,487
Nationalists, non‐globalists.

1539
01:22:34,555 --> 01:22:38,491
Anti‐EU, anti‐NATO,
anti‐immigration.

1540
01:22:38,559 --> 01:22:42,596
‐ Promoting the far right,
promoting the far left,

1541
01:22:42,663 --> 01:22:46,066
so that our politics
become more polarized,

1542
01:22:46,132 --> 01:22:48,569
then Putin can feed
lies to either side

1543
01:22:48,635 --> 01:22:50,637
because they hate
each other so much.

1544
01:22:51,738 --> 01:22:54,440
If we're divided as Americans

1545
01:22:54,508 --> 01:22:58,278
then it's harder for us to
stand up to that influence.

1546
01:22:58,344 --> 01:23:00,514
‐ They know that in the
west there's a tendency

1547
01:23:00,581 --> 01:23:02,583
towards positivism,
there's a tendency towards,

1548
01:23:02,649 --> 01:23:03,449
well, I don't know.

1549
01:23:03,517 --> 01:23:04,317
That's a story that's out there.

1550
01:23:04,384 --> 01:23:04,918
We just can't discredit it.

1551
01:23:04,985 --> 01:23:05,752
We have to.

1552
01:23:05,819 --> 01:23:08,288
Maybe the media is right.

1553
01:23:08,354 --> 01:23:10,123
The Russians know that
we do this a s westerners.

1554
01:23:10,190 --> 01:23:11,725
They see it coming and
they take it to the bank

1555
01:23:11,792 --> 01:23:13,226
every single time.

1556
01:23:13,293 --> 01:23:14,494
‐ The westerners are lazy.

1557
01:23:14,561 --> 01:23:15,662
I mean, they don't do research.

1558
01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:18,431
Russians have already
done everything for them

1559
01:23:18,498 --> 01:23:21,467
and they know how to pack it
and how to feed it to them.

1560
01:23:21,535 --> 01:23:23,704
‐ Russia wins the audience first

1561
01:23:23,770 --> 01:23:25,438
and then directs them somewhere.

1562
01:23:25,506 --> 01:23:27,440
It's very different from
American approaches.

1563
01:23:27,508 --> 01:23:29,142
Americans are impatient.

1564
01:23:29,209 --> 01:23:31,512
You just create
pictures, you create bios

1565
01:23:31,578 --> 01:23:34,080
that look like accounts that
are from these locations

1566
01:23:34,147 --> 01:23:36,683
because people are more
likely to take in information

1567
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,319
from people that look like
them and talk like them.

1568
01:23:39,385 --> 01:23:40,854
Follow everybody that's
in that community.

1569
01:23:40,921 --> 01:23:42,589
You retweet what they say.

1570
01:23:42,656 --> 01:23:44,090
Lowering the guard
of that audience

1571
01:23:44,157 --> 01:23:47,327
so they would accept Russian
information or Russian views.

1572
01:23:47,393 --> 01:23:50,296
Over time you can insert
in the content you want.

1573
01:23:52,365 --> 01:23:54,467
‐ In this office
building in St. Petersburg,

1574
01:23:54,535 --> 01:23:56,202
an army of trolls.

1575
01:23:56,269 --> 01:23:57,804
They were even caught on camera

1576
01:23:57,871 --> 01:24:00,507
secretly filmed by
a former employee.

1577
01:24:00,574 --> 01:24:02,509
‐ The U. S. elections
are the key issue

1578
01:24:02,576 --> 01:24:04,745
for the Kremlin and of
course Russia has invested

1579
01:24:04,811 --> 01:24:06,747
a lot of effort into them.

1580
01:24:06,813 --> 01:24:08,615
It's so sophisticated
and adapted

1581
01:24:08,682 --> 01:24:10,416
for the tastes of internet users

1582
01:24:10,483 --> 01:24:12,586
that it's almost
impossible to recognize.

1583
01:24:12,653 --> 01:24:14,054
‐ You have serious quotas.

1584
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,591
So in an hour you have to
produce 20 tweets, 30 comments

1585
01:24:17,658 --> 01:24:19,125
on these websites.

1586
01:24:19,192 --> 01:24:21,828
So, it's actually like a work
environment for these people.

1587
01:24:21,895 --> 01:24:24,665
‐ 12 hours a
day praising the Kremlin,

1588
01:24:24,731 --> 01:24:26,833
berating its enemies.

1589
01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:29,570
‐ I myself have a number
of Russian trolls.

1590
01:24:29,636 --> 01:24:32,739
I know whenever I refer to the
illegal annexation of Crimea

1591
01:24:32,806 --> 01:24:35,175
I get, you know, quite
a bit of criticism.

1592
01:24:35,241 --> 01:24:36,376
‐ An interview like this,

1593
01:24:36,442 --> 01:24:37,477
once it goes out
on the internet,

1594
01:24:37,544 --> 01:24:38,879
I'll receive some
sort of trolling

1595
01:24:38,945 --> 01:24:40,614
very specifically around it.

1596
01:24:40,681 --> 01:24:43,249
The goal is essentially
to get you to shut up.

1597
01:24:43,316 --> 01:24:45,151
And to not be a challenger.

1598
01:24:45,218 --> 01:24:46,720
They'll threaten
lawsuits, for example,

1599
01:24:46,787 --> 01:24:48,789
because they know nothing
effects an American

1600
01:24:48,855 --> 01:24:50,524
like the threat of a lawsuit.

1601
01:24:52,058 --> 01:24:53,359
If you're operating in Europe,
the closer you get to Moscow,

1602
01:24:53,426 --> 01:24:56,930
the more your physical
life is actually in danger.

1603
01:25:00,734 --> 01:25:02,669
They can try and break
into your bank accounts,

1604
01:25:02,736 --> 01:25:03,870
attack you financially,

1605
01:25:03,937 --> 01:25:05,806
and if they can't
get to you personally

1606
01:25:05,872 --> 01:25:07,774
they'll target your family.

1607
01:25:07,841 --> 01:25:09,175
They create false stories,

1608
01:25:09,242 --> 01:25:12,646
seed it out there to try
and destroy your reputation.

1609
01:25:12,713 --> 01:25:16,650
‐ You plant an idea,
a fake story, a lie.

1610
01:25:16,717 --> 01:25:17,851
‐ It will take on
a life of its own

1611
01:25:17,918 --> 01:25:19,586
and you don't have
to do the propaganda.

1612
01:25:19,653 --> 01:25:21,454
The audience will do it for you.

1613
01:25:22,656 --> 01:25:25,592
Seth Rich was a campaign
worker for Hillary Clinton.

1614
01:25:25,659 --> 01:25:27,427
He turned up dead.

1615
01:25:27,493 --> 01:25:29,730
The Seth Rich story
was that he was the one

1616
01:25:29,796 --> 01:25:32,498
who stole the Democratic
Committee emails.

1617
01:25:32,566 --> 01:25:34,735
There's no evidence
to support that.

1618
01:25:34,801 --> 01:25:36,670
Today is, it's an
unsolved murder

1619
01:25:36,737 --> 01:25:38,839
but it's propagated both
by the alternative right

1620
01:25:38,905 --> 01:25:40,707
but also by groups
like Wikileaks.

1621
01:25:40,774 --> 01:25:42,576
Even to the point where
you have Russian ambassador

1622
01:25:42,643 --> 01:25:44,678
show up and say I think
there might be something

1623
01:25:44,745 --> 01:25:45,879
into this Seth Rich story.

1624
01:25:45,946 --> 01:25:48,615
That doubt that's there
really covers your hand

1625
01:25:48,682 --> 01:25:49,850
over the longer term.

1626
01:25:50,984 --> 01:25:53,687
‐ And sometimes
the most outrageous

1627
01:25:53,754 --> 01:25:57,558
are the ones that you think
that you don't want to dignify

1628
01:25:57,624 --> 01:26:00,727
with a response to but that
I've subsequently learned

1629
01:26:00,794 --> 01:26:02,128
that's a kind of
dangerous proposition.

1630
01:26:02,195 --> 01:26:04,831
‐ John Podesta says let's
go over to the pizza place

1631
01:26:04,898 --> 01:26:06,533
and all of a sudden it's a story

1632
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,902
about child trafficking
ring in the basement

1633
01:26:08,969 --> 01:26:11,004
which doesn't exist
in the pizza place.

1634
01:26:11,071 --> 01:26:14,240
‐ Resulted in a person who
had been reading this stuff

1635
01:26:14,307 --> 01:26:16,643
deciding that he would deputize
himself to come up here

1636
01:26:16,710 --> 01:26:19,613
with a gun, firing that
weapon in the pizza parlor.

1637
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:21,782
But it just sort of never ends.

1638
01:26:24,084 --> 01:26:26,953
‐ 2013 they were starting
to learn the power

1639
01:26:27,020 --> 01:26:28,622
of this influence.

1640
01:26:28,689 --> 01:26:31,858
In 2014 they were doing
capability development.

1641
01:26:31,925 --> 01:26:35,662
'15 was winning
audiences so that in 2016

1642
01:26:35,729 --> 01:26:37,831
you could actually go
after the U. S. election.

1643
01:26:39,499 --> 01:26:41,735
The primary message
would be one,

1644
01:26:41,802 --> 01:26:43,704
Hillary Clinton cannot
become president.

1645
01:26:43,770 --> 01:26:46,707
Second one is Trump is the
man to mend fences with Russia

1646
01:26:46,773 --> 01:26:50,043
and he's a great leader and a
nationalist much like Putin.

1647
01:26:50,110 --> 01:26:52,746
The third one was Bernie
Sanders got a raw deal

1648
01:26:52,813 --> 01:26:54,781
that you shouldn't even
come out to the polls.

1649
01:26:54,848 --> 01:26:58,685
‐ The Russians in line with
right wing radical media

1650
01:26:58,752 --> 01:27:03,389
were creating false
stories to generate fear

1651
01:27:03,456 --> 01:27:05,425
and in story after
story after story.

1652
01:27:05,491 --> 01:27:07,060
‐ Secretary Clinton
had a serious disease.

1653
01:27:07,127 --> 01:27:08,194
‐ Multiple sclerosis.

1654
01:27:08,261 --> 01:27:09,796
‐ Hillary's
gonna cause nuclear war.

1655
01:27:09,863 --> 01:27:10,964
‐ Murderer of 30 people.

1656
01:27:11,031 --> 01:27:13,600
‐ Funding Isis,
smuggling drugs.

1657
01:27:13,667 --> 01:27:15,001
‐ Untrustworthy.
‐ Pedophilia.

1658
01:27:15,068 --> 01:27:16,136
‐ Crooked.

1659
01:27:16,202 --> 01:27:17,704
‐ Hillary Clinton
is the she devil.

1660
01:27:17,771 --> 01:27:20,874
‐ Totally creepy falsehood.

1661
01:27:20,941 --> 01:27:22,876
‐ Sometimes we found
in the United States

1662
01:27:22,943 --> 01:27:26,947
our greatest strength, free
speech, open societies,

1663
01:27:27,013 --> 01:27:31,852
a democracy can also be one of
our greatest vulnerabilities.

1664
01:27:31,918 --> 01:27:36,923
‐ I don't think we were
fully aware of the impact,

1665
01:27:37,891 --> 01:27:39,025
the effects that it was having.

1666
01:27:39,092 --> 01:27:42,829
So much of it seemed
surreal, ridiculous.

1667
01:27:42,896 --> 01:27:46,633
‐ By utilizing our
openness, they exploited us.

1668
01:27:46,700 --> 01:27:48,902
If people that I knew personally

1669
01:27:48,969 --> 01:27:50,537
to be thinking
thoughtful people,

1670
01:27:50,604 --> 01:27:54,508
if they were sharing the
propaganda, who else was sharing?

1671
01:27:54,575 --> 01:27:55,876
‐ Everyone falls for fake news.

1672
01:27:55,942 --> 01:27:56,977
I've fallen for fake news.

1673
01:27:57,043 --> 01:28:01,748
‐ Over the last 75
days, the top 20

1674
01:28:01,815 --> 01:28:04,885
demonstrably fake stories,

1675
01:28:04,951 --> 01:28:07,621
got more Facebook
likes and shares

1676
01:28:07,688 --> 01:28:11,592
than the top 20 campaign
stories from mainstream media.

1677
01:28:11,658 --> 01:28:15,729
‐ It laid the groundwork
for Sanders supporters

1678
01:28:15,796 --> 01:28:17,598
to say I've had it.

1679
01:28:17,664 --> 01:28:19,432
‐ They actually have
won over a segment

1680
01:28:19,499 --> 01:28:22,402
of the U. S. audience like
Russia's never won over before.

1681
01:28:22,468 --> 01:28:23,770
A white nationalists rally

1682
01:28:23,837 --> 01:28:26,507
in Charlottesville,
Virginia, where they chanted.

1683
01:28:31,111 --> 01:28:35,849
‐ Recent polling indicates
that 49% of Republican voters,

1684
01:28:35,916 --> 01:28:38,118
I'm sad to say, believe that,

1685
01:28:38,184 --> 01:28:40,787
that Putin and that
Russia are either

1686
01:28:40,854 --> 01:28:43,857
an ally or a friendly nation.

1687
01:28:43,924 --> 01:28:47,561
‐ The question is who
helped guide the decisions

1688
01:28:47,628 --> 01:28:48,929
that the Russians were making,

1689
01:28:48,995 --> 01:28:50,496
what ads they may have bought.

1690
01:28:50,564 --> 01:28:52,432
What kinds of fake news

1691
01:28:52,498 --> 01:28:54,701
they thought would
be most effective.

1692
01:28:54,768 --> 01:28:56,737
‐ If you know the personality

1693
01:28:56,803 --> 01:28:58,238
of the people you're targeting,

1694
01:28:58,304 --> 01:29:01,808
you can nuance your messaging
to resonate more effectively

1695
01:29:01,875 --> 01:29:03,844
with those key audience groups.

1696
01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:06,913
This information is quite
helpful to a campaign manager.

1697
01:29:07,948 --> 01:29:09,415
‐ Cambridge Analytica popped up

1698
01:29:09,482 --> 01:29:13,687
growing out of an experiment,
behavioral science experiment

1699
01:29:13,754 --> 01:29:16,823
at Cambridge University
to see whether they could

1700
01:29:16,890 --> 01:29:21,628
analyze large numbers
of people using Facebook

1701
01:29:21,695 --> 01:29:25,799
because people are spilling
their feelings to their friends,

1702
01:29:25,866 --> 01:29:27,934
hundreds of millions of
people in their pool.

1703
01:29:28,001 --> 01:29:29,269
‐ We have somewhere close to

1704
01:29:29,335 --> 01:29:31,905
four or five thousand
data points on every adult

1705
01:29:31,972 --> 01:29:33,173
in the United States.

1706
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,576
We can see where these
people are on the map.

1707
01:29:35,642 --> 01:29:38,812
‐ They were able to take
that to micro segment.

1708
01:29:38,879 --> 01:29:41,915
You belong to a group
of 12 like‐minded people

1709
01:29:41,982 --> 01:29:43,950
exactly like you
who are interested

1710
01:29:44,017 --> 01:29:46,119
in the same things
around the country.

1711
01:29:46,186 --> 01:29:48,689
‐ These are people who
are definitely going

1712
01:29:48,755 --> 01:29:51,224
to vote but they need
moving from the center

1713
01:29:51,291 --> 01:29:53,026
a little bit more
towards the right.

1714
01:29:53,093 --> 01:29:55,028
‐ You're not supposed
to go into Facebook

1715
01:29:55,095 --> 01:29:58,198
and harvest that
kind of information.

1716
01:29:58,264 --> 01:30:02,202
Cambridge Analytica
got its Facebook data

1717
01:30:02,268 --> 01:30:04,237
in a sort of quasi‐legal way.

1718
01:30:04,304 --> 01:30:06,873
‐ We can look at what
issue they care about.

1719
01:30:06,940 --> 01:30:08,742
Gun rights I've selected.

1720
01:30:08,809 --> 01:30:11,512
That narrows the field
slightly more and now we know

1721
01:30:11,578 --> 01:30:13,847
that we need a
message on gun rights.

1722
01:30:13,914 --> 01:30:15,849
It needs to be a
persuasion message

1723
01:30:15,916 --> 01:30:17,551
and it needs to be nuanced

1724
01:30:17,618 --> 01:30:19,485
according to the
certain personality

1725
01:30:19,553 --> 01:30:20,787
that we're interested in.

1726
01:30:20,854 --> 01:30:23,824
‐ They were very involved
in the Brexit vote.

1727
01:30:25,291 --> 01:30:27,894
‐ We saw the Russian
bot armies, the trolls,

1728
01:30:27,961 --> 01:30:30,697
have a very pro Brexit message.

1729
01:30:30,764 --> 01:30:33,600
‐ There have been allegations
that Cambridge Analytica

1730
01:30:33,667 --> 01:30:38,004
supported it through a small
office above a pizza shop,

1731
01:30:38,071 --> 01:30:41,908
which is not exactly the
kind of place you think

1732
01:30:41,975 --> 01:30:45,178
would be the center for
international intrigue

1733
01:30:45,245 --> 01:30:46,780
unless it was just a cutout

1734
01:30:46,847 --> 01:30:49,850
for somebody much more
consequential behind it.

1735
01:30:51,151 --> 01:30:54,588
‐ Cambridge
Analytics is owned by SCL.

1736
01:30:54,655 --> 01:30:58,525
‐ A larger and much more
sinister global election

1737
01:30:58,592 --> 01:31:03,029
tampering operation using
big data and technology.

1738
01:31:03,096 --> 01:31:05,966
‐ SCL is in turn owned
by shell companies

1739
01:31:06,032 --> 01:31:08,835
that you can trace
back to Dmitry Firtash

1740
01:31:09,803 --> 01:31:12,038
who again is tied to Mogilevich.

1741
01:31:15,809 --> 01:31:18,278
That would complete
the entire string

1742
01:31:18,344 --> 01:31:21,615
and show crime boss
and Mogilevich involved

1743
01:31:21,682 --> 01:31:24,951
starting out with pure and
simple money laundering in 1984

1744
01:31:25,018 --> 01:31:27,988
with Trump properties going
forward more than 32 years

1745
01:31:28,054 --> 01:31:31,692
to the election in which
this data mining firm

1746
01:31:31,758 --> 01:31:33,794
Cambridge Analytica is
playing a very, very big role

1747
01:31:33,860 --> 01:31:36,029
in the Trump campaign
and helping him win.

1748
01:31:43,670 --> 01:31:46,039
‐ Of the two candidates
left in this election,

1749
01:31:46,106 --> 01:31:48,575
one of them is using
these technologies

1750
01:31:48,642 --> 01:31:50,310
and it's gonna be very
interesting to see

1751
01:31:50,376 --> 01:31:53,346
how they impact the
next several weeks.

1752
01:31:53,413 --> 01:31:54,681
Thank you.

1753
01:31:54,748 --> 01:31:56,116
‐ One of the big
investors in Cambridge Analytica

1754
01:31:56,182 --> 01:31:57,851
is Robert Mercer.

1755
01:32:02,889 --> 01:32:05,058
He's a hedge fund billionaire.

1756
01:32:32,352 --> 01:32:35,922
‐ Cyber scientists on the
outside noticed this server

1757
01:32:35,989 --> 01:32:38,258
that was configured
in a very unusual way

1758
01:32:38,324 --> 01:32:42,696
that was a direct link
essentially from a Russian bank,

1759
01:32:42,763 --> 01:32:45,165
Alfa bank, and Trump Tower.

1760
01:32:48,101 --> 01:32:50,771
‐ That would
obviously explain

1761
01:32:50,837 --> 01:32:53,006
a major path of communications.

1762
01:32:53,073 --> 01:32:54,240
‐ Trump Tower.

1763
01:32:54,307 --> 01:32:56,943
They seemed to have
premonitions of things

1764
01:32:57,010 --> 01:32:59,012
that were gonna happen
that in fact did happen.

1765
01:32:59,079 --> 01:33:01,682
Roger Stone in August
saying it would be my turn

1766
01:33:01,748 --> 01:33:03,917
at the barrel while
he simultaneously

1767
01:33:03,984 --> 01:33:06,119
involved with Wikileaks.

1768
01:33:06,186 --> 01:33:11,024
‐ I actually have
communicated with Assange.

1769
01:33:11,091 --> 01:33:13,026
I believe the next
crunch of documents

1770
01:33:13,093 --> 01:33:16,129
pertain to the
Clinton Foundation

1771
01:33:16,196 --> 01:33:19,666
but there's no telling what
the October surprise may be.

1772
01:33:19,733 --> 01:33:23,737
‐ October 7, 2016, three
major things happened.

1773
01:33:23,804 --> 01:33:24,971
The Department of
Homeland Security

1774
01:33:25,038 --> 01:33:27,107
and the Director of
National Intelligence

1775
01:33:27,173 --> 01:33:30,076
made a public statement and
said the government hacking

1776
01:33:30,143 --> 01:33:32,045
during the 2016
election was none other

1777
01:33:32,112 --> 01:33:34,848
than the Russian Federation
and that this decision

1778
01:33:34,915 --> 01:33:38,184
could have only been
made by Vladimir Putin.

1779
01:33:38,251 --> 01:33:41,655
On the same day the Access
Hollywood tapes were revealed.

1780
01:33:47,393 --> 01:33:48,061
Those two things.

1781
01:33:48,128 --> 01:33:49,195
A third thing happened.

1782
01:33:49,262 --> 01:33:51,632
John Podesta's
emails were released.

1783
01:33:53,033 --> 01:33:55,235
‐ Wikileaks posted more
than 2,000 additional emails

1784
01:33:55,301 --> 01:33:58,371
from Hillary Clinton's
campaign chair, John Podesta.

1785
01:33:58,438 --> 01:33:59,840
‐ I never heard from the FBI

1786
01:33:59,906 --> 01:34:02,275
until two days after my emails
started getting released.

1787
01:34:02,342 --> 01:34:03,910
They said you may
not be aware of this

1788
01:34:03,977 --> 01:34:05,078
but your emails
have been hacked.

1789
01:34:05,145 --> 01:34:07,247
I said, yes, I've been
watching it for 48 hours

1790
01:34:07,313 --> 01:34:11,451
on every cable story,
you know, in the country.

1791
01:34:11,518 --> 01:34:14,054
That was actually the last
time I talked to the FBI.

1792
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,723
‐ There was a lot more
that was coming out

1793
01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:19,826
that we were aware of that
we couldn't get the press

1794
01:34:19,893 --> 01:34:21,394
to pay any attention to.

1795
01:34:21,461 --> 01:34:24,430
I tried in my speeches
and then culminating

1796
01:34:24,497 --> 01:34:25,899
in the third debate.

1797
01:34:25,966 --> 01:34:28,902
‐ Look, from everything I see

1798
01:34:28,969 --> 01:34:32,472
has no respect for this person.

1799
01:34:32,539 --> 01:34:33,674
‐ Well, that's
because he'd rather

1800
01:34:33,740 --> 01:34:36,209
have a puppet as president.
‐ No puppet.

1801
01:34:36,276 --> 01:34:37,377
No puppet.

1802
01:34:37,443 --> 01:34:38,111
‐ United States and
it's pretty clear.

1803
01:34:38,178 --> 01:34:39,279
‐ You're the puppet.

1804
01:34:39,345 --> 01:34:40,113
‐ It's pretty clear
you won't admit‐‐

1805
01:34:40,180 --> 01:34:41,982
‐ No you won't‐‐

1806
01:34:42,048 --> 01:34:43,416
‐
That the Russians have engaged

1807
01:34:43,483 --> 01:34:44,785
in cyber‐attacks against the
United States of America.

1808
01:34:44,851 --> 01:34:50,423
That you encouraged
espionage against our people.

1809
01:34:51,592 --> 01:34:54,194
That you are willing to
spout the Putin line,

1810
01:34:54,260 --> 01:34:57,297
sign up for his wish
list, break up NATO,

1811
01:34:57,363 --> 01:34:59,533
do whatever he wants to do.

1812
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,202
‐ We went into election
day believing that we had

1813
01:35:02,268 --> 01:35:05,038
a lead in the popular vote
which proved to be true.

1814
01:35:06,272 --> 01:35:08,041
Michigan, Wisconsin
and Pennsylvania,

1815
01:35:08,108 --> 01:35:10,143
we felt like we had a
lead in all those states

1816
01:35:10,210 --> 01:35:12,078
and that proved to be not true

1817
01:35:12,145 --> 01:35:15,215
so he won by a combined
total in those three states

1818
01:35:15,281 --> 01:35:17,283
of 70,000 votes and
gave him the presidency.

1819
01:35:26,326 --> 01:35:27,928
‐ Sorry to keep you waiting.

1820
01:35:27,994 --> 01:35:29,730
Complicated business.

1821
01:35:49,115 --> 01:35:50,250
‐ During the transition,

1822
01:35:50,316 --> 01:35:54,287
Jared Kushner met with a
sanctioned Russian bank.

1823
01:35:54,354 --> 01:35:55,455
‐ Gorkov, the head of that bank,

1824
01:35:55,522 --> 01:35:57,991
got his training not in
the banker's academy.

1825
01:35:58,058 --> 01:36:00,126
He's a trained KGB agent.

1826
01:36:01,427 --> 01:36:03,263
And its offices all
around the world

1827
01:36:03,329 --> 01:36:05,932
are always understood
to be providing cover

1828
01:36:05,999 --> 01:36:07,934
for Russian
intelligence operations.

1829
01:36:08,001 --> 01:36:10,370
‐ What did you really speak
to Jared Kushner about

1830
01:36:10,436 --> 01:36:13,073
in New York when you
met him in December?

1831
01:36:13,139 --> 01:36:15,408
‐ The Russian bank
said they talked business.

1832
01:36:15,475 --> 01:36:19,279
White House says they talked
future U. S./Russia relations.

1833
01:36:19,345 --> 01:36:21,381
‐ If he was doing this
for business purposes

1834
01:36:21,447 --> 01:36:23,049
it would be a
violation of the law.

1835
01:36:23,116 --> 01:36:25,285
If he was doing this
for political purposes

1836
01:36:25,351 --> 01:36:27,120
there are serious
questions about whether he

1837
01:36:27,187 --> 01:36:29,389
or anyone on the campaign
were working with Russians

1838
01:36:29,455 --> 01:36:31,124
during the
interference campaign.

1839
01:36:31,191 --> 01:36:33,293
‐ The crown jewel for
any intelligence agency

1840
01:36:33,359 --> 01:36:36,396
is to recruit an asset inside

1841
01:36:36,462 --> 01:36:38,364
your adversary's
intelligence agency

1842
01:36:40,333 --> 01:36:42,368
because that person
can of course report

1843
01:36:42,435 --> 01:36:45,539
on intelligence operations
against your own country.

1844
01:36:45,606 --> 01:36:48,241
‐ For Donald Trump
to put Michael Flynn

1845
01:36:48,308 --> 01:36:50,243
in the role of National
Security Advisor

1846
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:53,647
shows that they were
extremely incompetent

1847
01:36:53,714 --> 01:36:56,482
in their vetting of an
individual who was working

1848
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:59,886
as an unregistered foreign
agent on behalf of Turkey.

1849
01:36:59,953 --> 01:37:03,189
Who had extensive ties to a
foreign adversary in Russia

1850
01:37:03,256 --> 01:37:06,426
and wasn't disclosing
those ties or that was one

1851
01:37:06,492 --> 01:37:10,330
of his highest qualifications
and Donald Trump liked that.

1852
01:37:10,396 --> 01:37:15,201
‐ I was invited to take my
old job as CIA director back.

1853
01:37:15,268 --> 01:37:17,938
And I learned that I
would have had to report

1854
01:37:18,004 --> 01:37:20,273
to the president
through Mike Flynn.

1855
01:37:20,340 --> 01:37:22,509
They pressed me to go
to a particular meeting

1856
01:37:22,576 --> 01:37:25,145
where there were
several Turks present

1857
01:37:25,211 --> 01:37:27,581
and it was clear they
were thinking seriously

1858
01:37:27,648 --> 01:37:31,317
about taking him into custody
Gulan in Western Pennsylvania

1859
01:37:31,384 --> 01:37:33,987
which would have been completely
illegal under American law.

1860
01:37:34,054 --> 01:37:36,022
I told them that and left.

1861
01:37:38,424 --> 01:37:41,427
I decided I did not want
to report through Mike

1862
01:37:41,494 --> 01:37:44,531
and so I turned down the offer.

1863
01:37:44,598 --> 01:37:45,699
‐ President‐elect Donald Trump

1864
01:37:45,766 --> 01:37:48,134
sent out an email
announcing his pick

1865
01:37:48,201 --> 01:37:49,369
for Secretary of State.

1866
01:37:49,435 --> 01:37:52,372
Exxon Mobil chairman
and CEO Rex Tillerson,

1867
01:37:52,438 --> 01:37:55,609
despite concerns over
his close ties to Russia.

1868
01:37:56,777 --> 01:37:58,378
‐ I mean, this is
a guy who was given

1869
01:37:58,444 --> 01:38:01,381
a friendship award
by Vladimir Putin.

1870
01:38:01,447 --> 01:38:03,449
‐ I have a very close
relationship with him

1871
01:38:03,517 --> 01:38:06,319
which dates back
almost 15 years now.

1872
01:38:06,386 --> 01:38:09,489
‐ I believe that Rex Tillerson
was chosen by Donald Trump

1873
01:38:09,556 --> 01:38:11,525
for primarily one reason.

1874
01:38:11,592 --> 01:38:16,029
He would not stand in
the way of Donald Trump's

1875
01:38:16,096 --> 01:38:19,700
prevailing policy
interests which is to align

1876
01:38:19,766 --> 01:38:23,570
the United States with
Vladimir Putin's regime.

1877
01:38:23,637 --> 01:38:26,372
And I think that's
exactly what he's done.

1878
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:27,908
He's facilitated it.

1879
01:38:29,409 --> 01:38:32,045
‐ Putin and Rex Tillerson had
been trying to put together

1880
01:38:32,112 --> 01:38:36,449
a 500 billion dollar
Arctic Exploration deal.

1881
01:38:36,517 --> 01:38:39,085
‐ Exxon Mobil has won a
highly coveted contract

1882
01:38:39,152 --> 01:38:40,353
with Russia's Rozneft.

1883
01:38:40,420 --> 01:38:43,089
‐ You know, my philosophy
is to make money.

1884
01:38:43,156 --> 01:38:46,727
And so if I can
drill and make money

1885
01:38:46,793 --> 01:38:48,595
then that's what I want to do.

1886
01:38:51,397 --> 01:38:54,100
‐ But it had been put on hold
by the Obama Administration

1887
01:38:54,167 --> 01:38:55,669
when the sanctions were imposed.

1888
01:38:57,470 --> 01:38:59,505
‐ One of the fascinating
things in that dossier,

1889
01:38:59,573 --> 01:39:01,374
Steele sources told
him that Rozneft,

1890
01:39:01,441 --> 01:39:03,443
big Russian oil company
owned by the state,

1891
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:06,146
that 19% of it was
gonna be sold off.

1892
01:39:06,212 --> 01:39:08,381
And that there'd be money for
people who were able to get.

1893
01:39:08,448 --> 01:39:09,650
U.S. sanctions removed.

1894
01:39:14,588 --> 01:39:19,593
Well, sure enough in December
that percentage of Rozneft

1895
01:39:20,827 --> 01:39:23,597
was sold off in a method by
which involved Shell companies

1896
01:39:23,664 --> 01:39:26,099
in the Grand Caymans
which are nontransparent

1897
01:39:26,166 --> 01:39:27,601
so which you can't penetrate.

1898
01:39:29,302 --> 01:39:31,738
‐ Only someone in
the highest echelons

1899
01:39:31,805 --> 01:39:34,641
of Rozneft would have
access to that information.

1900
01:39:38,612 --> 01:39:41,381
‐ And obviously somebody
talking to Chris Steele

1901
01:39:41,447 --> 01:39:45,118
knew a lot about it many
months before it happened.

1902
01:39:49,355 --> 01:39:51,457
‐ The Russian hand in
these influence efforts,

1903
01:39:51,525 --> 01:39:52,593
ultimately they'll
try and hide it

1904
01:39:52,659 --> 01:39:54,327
and they do it with two methods,

1905
01:39:54,394 --> 01:39:57,097
putting them in jail
or killing people off.

1906
01:39:59,633 --> 01:40:02,102
‐ Arrests in which
people were dragged out

1907
01:40:02,168 --> 01:40:04,470
had black bags put
over their heads.

1908
01:40:04,538 --> 01:40:06,306
Charged for treason.

1909
01:40:06,372 --> 01:40:09,442
These people may have
been Chris Steele sources

1910
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:12,579
or Russian intelligence may
have suspected that they were.

1911
01:40:14,147 --> 01:40:16,783
The day after Christmas,
General Oleg Erovenkin,

1912
01:40:16,850 --> 01:40:21,321
who was the Chief of Staff
of Rozneft was assassinated

1913
01:40:21,387 --> 01:40:24,424
in the back of a car in
the center of Moscow.

1914
01:40:24,490 --> 01:40:27,193
‐ The head of RT
English mysterious death

1915
01:40:27,260 --> 01:40:28,494
in Washington, D. C.

1916
01:40:29,863 --> 01:40:31,865
A Russian diplomat stationed
here in New York City

1917
01:40:31,932 --> 01:40:34,200
had actually died
on election day.

1918
01:40:35,869 --> 01:40:38,572
‐ You've got obvious interests
on the part of the Russians.

1919
01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:40,607
And of course on the
other side of the equation

1920
01:40:40,674 --> 01:40:42,609
you have all of these
contacts going back to Russia,

1921
01:40:42,676 --> 01:40:44,778
whether it's Roger Stone,
whether it's Flynn.

1922
01:40:44,845 --> 01:40:45,879
Whether it's any of these folks,

1923
01:40:45,946 --> 01:40:48,181
there is simply
way too much smoke

1924
01:40:48,248 --> 01:40:50,551
for there to be absolutely
no fire whatsoever.

1925
01:41:06,833 --> 01:41:11,271
‐ That I forget how many
tentacles this has.

1926
01:41:11,337 --> 01:41:15,576
It's just sort of anyone of
these is a massive story.

1927
01:41:23,517 --> 01:41:26,452
It's unrealistic to think it's
limited to what we know now.

1928
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,556
Rather than look at this as
one isolated money laundering

1929
01:41:29,623 --> 01:41:33,493
after another or one criminal
appearing after another.

1930
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:34,661
I think it's much more than that

1931
01:41:34,728 --> 01:41:37,330
and what you have is probably

1932
01:41:37,397 --> 01:41:40,734
the biggest intelligence breach
in the history of the world.

1933
01:41:40,801 --> 01:41:44,404
‐ So to be clear Mr. Trump
has no financial relationships

1934
01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:46,239
with any Russian oligarchs?

1935
01:41:46,306 --> 01:41:47,273
‐ That that's what he said.

1936
01:41:47,340 --> 01:41:48,008
I didn't.

1937
01:41:48,074 --> 01:41:49,175
That's what I said.

1938
01:41:49,242 --> 01:41:51,144
That's obviously
what our position is.

1939
01:42:06,660 --> 01:42:07,928
‐ Do you solemnly swear.

1940
01:42:07,994 --> 01:42:11,698
‐ The office of President
of the United States.

1941
01:42:38,892 --> 01:42:43,897
‐ The president is, I believe,
a puppet of Vladimir Putin.

1942
01:42:45,566 --> 01:42:48,869
That is the mere challenge
that we face as Americans.

1943
01:42:50,036 --> 01:42:53,607
‐ He has tried to
deliver for Russia.

1944
01:42:53,674 --> 01:42:56,710
He wanted to take off
sanctions immediately.

1945
01:42:56,777 --> 01:42:59,680
‐ I was in the administration
for the first five weeks

1946
01:42:59,746 --> 01:43:01,748
of Trump where,
among other things,

1947
01:43:01,815 --> 01:43:03,984
I was responsible for
the Russia sanctions.

1948
01:43:04,050 --> 01:43:06,553
And I'm one of the
people who was worried

1949
01:43:06,620 --> 01:43:08,789
that the Trump
Administration would suddenly

1950
01:43:08,855 --> 01:43:10,323
lift the sanctions unilaterally.

1951
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:11,792
And I stand by it now.

1952
01:43:15,095 --> 01:43:16,697
‐ You don't have to
have been a lawyer.

1953
01:43:16,763 --> 01:43:18,164
You don't have to have
been in a cover‐up

1954
01:43:18,231 --> 01:43:21,802
to see when somebody is acting
like they're covering up.

1955
01:43:21,868 --> 01:43:24,771
This man is clearly
inconspicuously doing so.

1956
01:43:28,775 --> 01:43:32,378
‐ I don't know how a president
can handle this situation

1957
01:43:32,445 --> 01:43:34,280
worse than President
Trump is now.

1958
01:43:35,616 --> 01:43:37,551
His actions at the G20,

1959
01:43:37,618 --> 01:43:40,721
his talk of maybe getting
a cyber partnership.

1960
01:43:43,890 --> 01:43:46,760
You don't go to somebody who
just punched you in the face

1961
01:43:46,827 --> 01:43:48,328
and then offer them a favor.

1962
01:43:54,801 --> 01:43:56,102
‐ Trump has to have
known he was compromised.

1963
01:43:56,169 --> 01:43:58,739
He's got to know the eyes
of the world are on him.

1964
01:43:58,805 --> 01:44:01,842
And suddenly all these forces
will be out to expose him.

1965
01:44:01,908 --> 01:44:04,778
I cannot imagine living with
that every day, you know.

1966
01:44:08,381 --> 01:44:12,418
‐ The Trump campaign's
biggest potential exposure

1967
01:44:12,485 --> 01:44:14,755
is gonna be in their
financial dealings.

1968
01:44:14,821 --> 01:44:17,924
It's very hard to
cover up money trails.

1969
01:44:19,660 --> 01:44:22,929
The other one is
obstruction of justice.

1970
01:44:22,996 --> 01:44:25,532
‐ Collusion is a media shorthand

1971
01:44:25,599 --> 01:44:27,934
for could be aiding
and abetting.

1972
01:44:28,001 --> 01:44:29,235
Conspiracy.

1973
01:44:29,302 --> 01:44:32,773
It could be aid and
comfort which is treason.

1974
01:44:34,808 --> 01:44:38,812
‐ The Russia story is
a total fabrication.

1975
01:44:38,879 --> 01:44:41,748
What the prosecutors
should be looking at

1976
01:44:41,815 --> 01:44:45,586
are Hillary Clinton's
33,000 deleted emails.

1977
01:44:49,455 --> 01:44:50,456
‐ Lock her up!

1978
01:44:50,524 --> 01:44:54,595
Lock her up!

1979
01:44:59,733 --> 01:45:07,541
Lock her up!

1980
01:45:10,644 --> 01:45:12,012
‐ It is ongoing.

1981
01:45:12,078 --> 01:45:16,116
The Russians efforts here
are continuing as we speak.

1982
01:45:16,182 --> 01:45:17,684
‐ We've done zero.

1983
01:45:17,751 --> 01:45:20,821
Absolutely nothing to protect us

1984
01:45:20,887 --> 01:45:24,525
from a future cyber‐attack
with respect to any election.

1985
01:45:24,591 --> 01:45:25,358
Zero.

1986
01:45:25,425 --> 01:45:26,727
We haven't done anything.

1987
01:45:26,793 --> 01:45:28,929
‐ As long as people can
do things without penalty

1988
01:45:28,995 --> 01:45:31,732
they're going to
continue to do them.

1989
01:45:31,798 --> 01:45:33,634
‐ We all have a stake
because it may have been

1990
01:45:33,700 --> 01:45:35,101
the Democrats and me this time.

1991
01:45:35,168 --> 01:45:38,071
It can be the Republicans and
their candidate next time.

1992
01:45:38,138 --> 01:45:40,440
‐ Every single national security
official we've talked to

1993
01:45:40,507 --> 01:45:42,576
has said they're coming back.

1994
01:45:42,643 --> 01:45:43,744
We have to be ready for that.

1995
01:45:43,810 --> 01:45:45,646
‐ And if the people
don't demand that.

1996
01:45:45,712 --> 01:45:47,881
If they don't demand
that our sovereignty

1997
01:45:47,948 --> 01:45:51,117
needs to be defended, our
representatives in Congress

1998
01:45:51,184 --> 01:45:53,820
are gonna kind of look
the other way and move on.

1999
01:45:53,887 --> 01:45:56,890
‐ What's at stake is truth.

2000
01:45:56,957 --> 01:46:01,828
What's at stake is government
that's accountable to us.

2001
01:46:01,895 --> 01:46:03,930
And the cause of liberty

2002
01:46:03,997 --> 01:46:07,968
at the most profound
level possible.

2003
01:46:08,034 --> 01:46:10,203
‐ We owe it to the people
who have fought for

2004
01:46:10,270 --> 01:46:12,639
and sacrificed
for this democracy

2005
01:46:12,706 --> 01:46:14,875
and to be guardians
of it and make sure

2006
01:46:14,941 --> 01:46:17,443
that we always have
free and fair elections.

2007
01:46:18,305 --> 01:46:24,350
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